[928uk] legal advice
Paul R Smith
smiffypr at clear.net.nz
Sat Feb 25 11:24:58 UTC 2012
I would have sworn it said S4 at the bottom, but I must have imagined it
as it clearly says S2 (1985).
I that case, I would be asking for a breakdown of the costs, especially
the labour. Adjusting the idle speed is just turning a screw. If vacuum
leaks were bad enough to double the idle speed, I would expect the weak
mixture to be causing more symptoms. However if the idle speed had been
turned up to hide a stiff engine due to TBF, who knows.
What is the history of the high idle speed problem?
Smiffy
On 26/02/2012 12:01 a.m., JDSPorsche wrote:
> This is an S2, so no ISV buried under the intake. Airleaks around the
> injector seals sounds feasible.
> But the total charges are too high.
> Regards
> John Speake
> www.jdsporsche.com <http://www.jdsporsche.com>
> UK 07002 928 928
> or 01223 709915
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> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Paul R Smith <mailto:smiffypr at clear.net.nz>
> *Cc:* 928uk at lists.928.org.uk <mailto:928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 25, 2012 9:41 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [928uk] legal advice
>
> How many hours labour? If he replaced the idle stabilizer, that
> could easily be 8 hours, another 8 hours for the timing belt, and
> some more hours for diagnosis, so I think it would be difficult to
> argue that 20 hours would be unreasonable.
>
> The thrust bearing causing stalling is something that will have
> happened when the thrust bearing wear past a critical point,
> nothing to do with what was done, but a sign of lack of the
> correct maintenance over the entire life of the engine.
>
> Smiffy
>
> On 25/02/2012 10:20 p.m., . wrote:
>>
>> Gents, thanks for your replies. The car went in for a timing
>> belt and high tickover, about 1400 rpm. I new timing belt would
>> be about £400 to £450 so guessed another couple for sorting the
>> high tickover. Any time I've dealt with a garage they will call
>> you before any large expense. He replaced 3 injector O rings and
>> 2 air valves which he bought second hand at £20 and £120. The
>> rest is labour but its not itemised. I've spoken to consumer
>> direct and it comes down to what a reasonable person would
>> reasonably expect for this type of work. I dont think £500 to
>> £600 is reasonable for a high tickeover, especially since I was
>> not contacted before. Furthermore I bought the replacement
>> engine on his advice but now the original engine is running, I
>> wouldn't have bought it if I knew my car war still running ok. I
>> have doubts about his abilities and truthfulness and is it just
>> coincidence that the engine failed so soon after he worked on
>> it? The whole thing stinks to be honest.
>>
>> Basically I just want the car back but I dont feel I should pay
>> over £1000 for this work. Its also difficult paying anything for
>> what is now a knackered engine (or presumably a knackered
>> engine) but I have offered £700, which he has turned down.
>>
>> Mike
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> *From:* JDSPorsche <mailto:info at jdsporsche.com>
>> *To:* Paul R Smith <mailto:smiffypr at clear.net.nz> ;
>> 928uk at lists.928.org.uk <mailto:928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2012 10:50 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [928uk] legal advice
>>
>> Youi need them to tell you what the crank end float is now,
>> in order to determine whether the engine in the car is in
>> fact OK. (which sounds very doubtful to me)
>> You also need to do the same check on your "new" engine.
>> Regards
>> John Speake
>> www.jdsporsche.com <http://www.jdsporsche.com>
>> UK 07002 928 928
>> or 01223 709915
>> INT 44 7002 928 928
>> or 44 1223 709915
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Paul R Smith <mailto:smiffypr at clear.net.nz>
>> *To:* 928uk at lists.928.org.uk <mailto:928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2012 3:53 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [928uk] legal advice
>>
>> A thrust bearing isn't repaired by relieving the
>> flex-plate pre-load, all that has done is releive the
>> symptoms. So you still probably need the replacement engine.
>>
>> How much time did they spend on the idle problem and what
>> new parts did they fit?
>>
>> What are you disputing with the garage, the cost of
>> fixing the high idle, or the money you have spent on the
>> spare engine?
>>
>> Smiffy
>>
>> On 24/02/2012 12:31 p.m., . wrote:
>>> I have a problem with my 928 -- I don't have it.I'm
>>> looking for a recommendation of any solicitors who are
>>> good at dealing with garage disputes, maybe Graham has
>>> gone down this route already?Briefly it goes back to
>>> last June when I put my 928 into a Porsche specialist in
>>> Glasgow for timing belt and a high tickover problem.When
>>> I picked it up I didn't pay cause he didn't have the
>>> bill ready but after driving 30 miles it started
>>> stalling.It went back and he diagnosed TBF and a new
>>> engine.I sourced my own engine and then 3 weeks later
>>> (he was in hospital) he told me he released the flex
>>> plate and engine running ok but I was due over £1000 for
>>> earlier work!! I had already spent £500 on a new engine
>>> plus over £200 total delivery.Furthermore that worked
>>> out about £600 to sort out the high tickover!Any advice
>>> welcome.
>>> Cheers
>>> Mike D
>>> 928 S2 (1985)
>>>
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