[928uk] Re Starting problems
Sean Crean via 928uk
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Sat Oct 17 13:46:43 UTC 2015
yes sorry its an 87 S4
Sean
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> 2. Re: Starting problems (Paul R Smith via 928uk)
> 3. Re: black GTS (Simon Part via 928uk)
> 4. Re: black GTS (Andy Elvers via 928uk)
> 5. Re: black GTS (Paul via 928uk)
> 6. Re: black GTS (Paul via 928uk)
> 7. High Mileage Nervousness - Cam Chains (Paul via 928uk)
> 8. Re: High Mileage Nervousness - Cam Chains (via 928uk)
> 9. Re: High Mileage Nervousness - Cam Chains (Paul Lacey via 928uk)
> 10. Re: High Mileage Nervousness - Cam Chains
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> Hi there,
> I have not owned my 928 for long and I am totally smitten. However, one
> of many reasons why I bought one was that I thought they would be
> relatively reliable. I have had nothing but starting/erratic idling
> issues since I bought mine and wondered if this is just bad luck on my
> part or whether its a common issue with these cars?
> Oh and as a side point I had a very nice meeting with another
> longstanding 928 owner from the Suffolk coastal area who has owned
> several for over 20yrs - reg of his lovely blue GTS was ....KERR. We
> clocked each other in my hometown and had a chat but I should have got
> his details as he does repairs etc too. I think he raced them now or at
> some point too. He said we are the only 2 within 30 miles or so.
> cheers
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> 3. Re: black GTS (Simon Part via 928uk)
> 4. Re: black GTS (Andy Elvers via 928uk)
> 5. Re: black GTS (Paul via 928uk)
> 6. Re: black GTS (Paul via 928uk)
> 7. High Mileage Nervousness - Cam Chains (Paul via 928uk)
> 8. Re: High Mileage Nervousness - Cam Chains (via 928uk)
> 9. Re: High Mileage Nervousness - Cam Chains (Paul Lacey via 928uk)
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> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 16:11:07 +0100
> From: Sean Crean via 928uk <928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
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> Hi there,
> I have not owned my 928 for long and I am totally smitten. However, one
> of many reasons why I bought one was that I thought they would be
> relatively reliable. I have had nothing but starting/erratic idling
> issues since I bought mine and wondered if this is just bad luck on my
> part or whether its a common issue with these cars?
> Oh and as a side point I had a very nice meeting with another
> longstanding 928 owner from the Suffolk coastal area who has owned
> several for over 20yrs - reg of his lovely blue GTS was ....KERR. We
> clocked each other in my hometown and had a chat but I should have got
> his details as he does repairs etc too. I think he raced them now or at
> some point too. He said we are the only 2 within 30 miles or so.
> cheers
> --
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> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 16:15:07 +0100
> From: Paul R Smith via 928uk <928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
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> You need to say what model year yours is, but generally no, it's not common.
>
> Smiffy
>
>> On 16/10/2015 4:11 p.m., Sean Crean via 928uk wrote:
>> Hi there,
>> I have not owned my 928 for long and I am totally smitten. However, one
>> of many reasons why I bought one was that I thought they would be
>> relatively reliable. I have had nothing but starting/erratic idling
>> issues since I bought mine and wondered if this is just bad luck on my
>> part or whether its a common issue with these cars?
>> Oh and as a side point I had a very nice meeting with another
>> longstanding 928 owner from the Suffolk coastal area who has owned
>> several for over 20yrs - reg of his lovely blue GTS was ....KERR. We
>> clocked each other in my hometown and had a chat but I should have got
>> his details as he does repairs etc too. I think he raced them now or at
>> some point too. He said we are the only 2 within 30 miles or so.
>> cheers
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> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 17:50:29 +0100
> From: Simon Part via 928uk <928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
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> Does a lister know this car ?
>
> http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/928/porsche-928-gts--76000-miles/4831038
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> Thanks,
>
> Simon
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> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 17:56:12 +0100
> From: Andy Elvers via 928uk <928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
> To: Simon Part <simon_part at yahoo.com>
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> This was for sale near Kew and was moved on to this dealer. Why do you
> want to know?
>
> Andy
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> On Friday, 16 October 2015, Simon Part via 928uk <928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
> wrote:
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>> Does a lister know this car ?
>>
>>
>> http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/928/porsche-928-gts--76000-miles/4831038
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Simon
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> From: Paul via 928uk <928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
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> "This late model GTS is the most desirable variant of all Porsche 928s."
> Except it's Auto, so that claim is only worthy of a politician.
>
> Paul
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> On 16 October 2015 at 17:56, Andy Elvers via 928uk <928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
> wrote:
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>> This was for sale near Kew and was moved on to this dealer. Why do you
>> want to know?
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> On Friday, 16 October 2015, Simon Part via 928uk <928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
>> wrote:
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>>> Does a lister know this car ?
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/928/porsche-928-gts--76000-miles/4831038
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Simon
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> "Mechanically the engine starts easily from cold and when hot, idles
> quietly, consistent and without smoke."
>
> That may just be a very poorly worded advertisement, or it could be
> disturbingly frank!
>
> Paul
>
>> On 16 October 2015 at 18:29, Paul <ukkid35 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> "This late model GTS is the most desirable variant of all Porsche 928s."
>> Except it's Auto, so that claim is only worthy of a politician.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 16 October 2015 at 17:56, Andy Elvers via 928uk <928uk at lists.928.org.uk
>>> wrote:
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>>> This was for sale near Kew and was moved on to this dealer. Why do you
>>> want to know?
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, 16 October 2015, Simon Part via 928uk <928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does a lister know this car ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/928/porsche-928-gts--76000-miles/4831038
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Simon
>>>>
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> The only thing that currently makes me slightly nervous about my engine is
> that I'm on the original cam chains.
>
> Some time ago I do remember Jon (now resident in Oz) posting about aged and
> stretched chains ripping teeth off of camshafts - not pleasant!
>
> Has anyone had any experience or insight on this issue?
>
> Paul
> 87 S4 Manual - 230k miles
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> Hi Paul,
>
> Never seen or heard of that happening, however if Jon said it did I believe him. The original chains are very strong. Not so some of the OEM chains by Bilstein or IWIS. The IWIS Racing chain is the closest I have seen to the original Porsche chain. Not many replace the chains and we probably sell 3 sets a year if that.
>
> The pads do wear and we sell lots of those.
>
> Best,
>
> Roger
>
>
>
> The only thing that currently makes me slightly nervous about my engine is that I'm on the original cam chains.
>
>
>
> Some time ago I do remember Jon (now resident in Oz) posting about aged and stretched chains ripping teeth off of camshafts - not pleasant!
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> Has anyone had any experience or insight on this issue?
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> Paul
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> 87 S4 Manual - 230k miles
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> From: Paul Lacey via 928uk <928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
> To: Paul <ukkid35 at gmail.com>, "928uk at lists.928.org.uk"
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> Hi,They are about to go and just waiting for the worst time, on a ferry, somewhere foreign.Sleepless nightsChewed nailsNervous twitches
> Sorry Paul - those chains have very little stress on them which would be basically when starting the engine or sudden acceleration, virtually no stress most of the time due to the inertia of the spinning cam (the chain driven one) in conjunction with eight valves all at different positions at any given moment.I've rebuilt several 32v engines and never seen signs of needing to change those chains. I think mileage is not relevant, good oil and regular (scheduled) changes much more important.I wouldn't worry Paul, just put it down as a job to do with a cambelt change perhaps ? You know better than most how much work is involved to change those chains !
> P.S. I would say "do it when you have the cam covers painted" but that's not a suitable comment to you is it ;-) Best Regards,Paul L
> From: Paul via 928uk <928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
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> Subject: [928uk] High Mileage Nervousness - Cam Chains
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> The only thing that currently makes me slightly nervous about my engine is that I'm on the original cam chains.
> Some time ago I do remember Jon (now resident in Oz) posting about aged and stretched chains ripping teeth off of camshafts - not pleasant!
> Has anyone had any experience or insight on this issue?
> Paul87 S4 Manual - 230k miles
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> From: marton hasenberg via 928uk <928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
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> I would expect (same as for those motors that use cam chains instead of
> cam belts) that you would get some noise from the chains before they get
> to a really bad state?
>
> They claimed with my 5.0 Mustang that the cam chains would last at least
> 400K Km and you would hear a lot of noise before they gave way. Those
> chains would likely have more stress than the 928's?
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüssen/ with best wishes
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>> On 16/10/2015 19:44, Paul via 928uk wrote:
>> The only thing that currently makes me slightly nervous about my
>> engine is that I'm on the original cam chains.
>>
>> Some time ago I do remember Jon (now resident in Oz) posting about
>> aged and stretched chains ripping teeth off of camshafts - not pleasant!
>>
>> Has anyone had any experience or insight on this issue?
>>
>> Paul
>> 87 S4 Manual - 230k miles
>>
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> From: Simon Part via 928uk <928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
> To: Andy Elvers <kingsx928 at gmail.com>
> Cc: Porsche <928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [928uk] black GTS
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> Thanks Andy.
> I'm interested in the price point, but would prefer to speak with a previous owner before the dealer whenever possible.
>
> Simon
>
>
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> On Fri, 16/10/15, Andy Elvers <kingsx928 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Subject: Re: [928uk] black GTS
> To: "Simon Part" <simon_part at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "928uk at lists.928.org.uk" <928uk at lists.928.org.uk>, "928uk-request at lists.928.org.uk" <928uk-request at lists.928.org.uk>
> Date: Friday, 16 October, 2015, 17:56
>
> This was for sale near
> Kew and was moved on to this dealer. Why do you want to
> know?
> Andy
>
> On Friday, 16
> October 2015, Simon Part via 928uk <928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
> wrote:
> Does a lister know this car
> ?
>
>
>
> http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/928/porsche-928-gts--76000-miles/4831038
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Simon
>
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