[928uk] Car broke in Belgium

Sat Sep 29 10:35:39 UTC 2018

Try relay 17 (fuel pump) you can swap it with 20 (intensive washer) if you
don’t have a spare

On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 at 11:29, Paul Smith via 928uk <928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
wrote:

> I'm not aware of one on 928.
> Smiffy
>
> On Sat, 29 Sep 2018, 11:26 Adrian Langford via 928uk, <
> 928uk at lists.928.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> I’m fascinated to see if this is true - never heard of such a thing on
>> 928, but always learning about these cars!
>>
>> On 29 Sep 2018, at 11:07, Jan-Willem Labeij <jwlabeij at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> There is an accident cut off switch to stop the engine in case of a big
>> jolt, these always have a reset. Unfortunately I do not know the location
>> but it should be in the engine bay.
>>
>> JeWe
>>
>>
>> On 29 Sep 2018, at 10:57, Adrian Langford via 928uk <
>> 928uk at lists.928.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Or going for simpler possibilities - maybe the shock damaged one of the
>> key relays - pump, LH or EZK in which case you can swap in horn relay to
>> rest, or maybe carrying spare 53?
>>
>> Adrian
>>
>> On 29 Sep 2018, at 10:51, Adrian Langford via 928uk <
>> 928uk at lists.928.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>> That sounds a pain Mike - do you have breakdown/recovery cover if
>> necessary?
>>
>> My thoughts turned to which connectors/components would stop
>> fuel/ignition. Maybe shock fractured CPS coil?
>>
>> Adrian
>>
>>
>>
>> On 29 Sep 2018, at 10:34, Michael Parris <michaeljparris at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Currently stranded, ran over a pothole at 75 and engine stopped and won't
>> restart, just turns over. Tried reseating a few electronic things.  Can't
>> do much more on shoulder as dangerous. Waiting for cops to arrive.
>> Mike
>> 90s4 deaded
>>
>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018, 19:32 Kevin Fearon via 928uk, <
>> 928uk at lists.928.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Paul,
>>>
>>> I have this bulb check problem with my S2, and haven't yet been able to
>>> sort it out. Ignition on, check lights lit for under a second. I can hear a
>>> click from a relay behind the centre console that coincides with the
>>> warning lights going out even though the engine hasn't started. On my 1985
>>> car there is a bank of four relays behind the radio and I can feel one of
>>> them clicking synchronous with the check lights extinguishing. I haven't
>>> had any alternator problems, and have changed the warning system module
>>> with one from another car; problem remains.
>>> I'm starting to think it is related to terminal 50 from the ignition
>>> switch but haven't investigated further yet.
>>> I've done an internet trawl for any relevant information and compiled it
>>> into a work document. I'll dig it out and post it up.
>>> Good luck, and let me know if you fix it? Thanks.
>>>
>>> Kindest regards,
>>>
>>> Kevin
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Paul via 928uk <928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
>>> *To:* 928 List <928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, 28 September 2018, 9:17
>>> *Subject:* Re: [928uk] Emergency Alternator Question
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Although the Alternator Failure hasn't returned I now have a new
>>> symptom of something that has gone awry
>>>
>>> When switching on the ignition, the 'bulb check' only lasts for half a
>>> second before the the dash changes to 'engine running' status, although it
>>> hasn't been started
>>>
>>> This means I have flashing central warning lamp for low oil pressure
>>>
>>> This has never happened before, and definitely coincides with the
>>> alternator failure yesterday
>>>
>>> It is unlikely that I am going to go out of my way to try to fix this,
>>> but if it has a known cause then that would be very useful to know
>>>
>>> Paul
>>> 87 S4 Manual
>>>
>>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 at 12:31, Simon <simon at acs-online.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> Cool!!
>>>
>>> Driving is better than washing & polishing!. Never wash the car before
>>> going on something critical like two days at the ring! As you know I have
>>> turned up in my green one very dirty and just love driving it and
>>> maintaining it but even though it is usually dirtier the rain it is still
>>> admired!
>>>
>>> Before the 40th anniversary me last year I got someone to wash my black
>>> GTS which is never ever let me down and I told him not to squirt too much
>>> water over the windscreen and bonnet and guess what he did. And water got
>>> in somewhere and I was up all night rectifying the problem and arrived late
>>> at lunchtime.
>>>
>>> And on my green car I washed it in Devon which had very high water
>>> pressure and the brains got wet and had to be sorted out. . All because of
>>> washing. Grrr!!  Geoff Symonds very kindly lent me two of his.
>>>
>>> Have a great time! Be back with you next year Paul.
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Simon
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On 27 Sep 2018, at 12:15, Paul <ukkid35 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I agree with you - Leave Well Alone!
>>>
>>> Done several more laps without issue so I think Smiffy is right
>>>
>>> My mistake was putting the car through the car wash and then driving
>>> just 100 yards before leaving it overnight
>>>
>>> Water must have pooled somewhere and then caused a soaking once the hard
>>> cornering started
>>>
>>> On the second red flag now, but the weather is great so will be enjoying
>>> the sun during the break
>>>
>>> Paul
>>> 87 S4 Manual
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 at 11:13, Simon <simon at acs-online.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> PS. I have just re-read your email. If the alternator is working now I
>>> would leave everything well alone and only do actions if it fails again.
>>> Good luck and all the best,
>>> Simon
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On 27 Sep 2018, at 11:09, Simon <simon at acs-online.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> Oh no! Poor you, you don’t have much luck at the Ring do you mate?
>>>
>>> I have some thoughts.
>>> 1. Why bother with the heated rear screen? Sometimes the relay sticks
>>> and causes trouble so I would pull the relay.
>>> 2. Go and buy a spare battery and a charger. I would’ve thought both
>>> batteries would last you for the day even if the alternator is not chucking
>>> power out. It may come on and off and charge from time to time. I expect
>>> Darren would let you plug your other battery and charger in at Mission
>>> control in the Ring Taxi office.
>>> 3. Wiggle the alternator fuse and relay if they exist.
>>> 4. Disconnect the battery and loosen off the jumpstart terminal and
>>> wiggle/clean all the wires on it.
>>> 5. I know this is emergency stuff and not good practice but you are in
>>> that situation now. Try spraying some WD-40 into the alternator that might
>>> just clean up the contacts on the brushes or something or even belt the
>>> thing with a hammer & 1/2 inch drive extension bar and get a new one when
>>> you get home. !
>>> This is only what I would do in an emergency. But it is an emergency
>>> because you have paid a lot of money and gone all the way out there and you
>>> need to get the laps in mate!
>>>
>>> GGOD LUCK!!!!
>>> Say hi to my favourite place on Earth. I LOVE the Ring and sorry not to
>>> be there this time.
>>>
>>> All the best Paul & in haste as I am away, Best regards Simon
>>>
>>> PS if you need me to look up fuse really charts or anything like that
>>> email me and I will try and help.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> > On 27 Sep 2018, at 08:30, Paul <ukkid35 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi
>>> >
>>> > The alternator cut out half way through my first lap at the Ring
>>> >
>>> > I kept going and about 2 or 3 mins later it came back again, and has
>>> been working for last 20 miles or so
>>> >
>>> > Symptoms were alternator light on, voltage gauge at min, tacho pegged
>>> at 5k
>>> >
>>> > The car was fine first thing in the morning, and I switch on
>>> everything: lights, rear defrost, front defrost etc
>>> >
>>> > But 20 mins later during the first lap the alternator fails
>>> >
>>> > I did put the car through a car wash last night, but the jump start
>>> terminal does have the cover, and the multi-way plug was dry when I checked
>>> it just now
>>> >
>>> > Belt tension is good, no sign of contamination, and no weird noises
>>> >
>>> > Any suggestions as to the cause?
>>> >
>>> > Any predictions about what might happen next?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks - Paul
>>> > 87 S4 Manual
>>> >
>>>
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