[928uk] Car broke in Belgium

Sat Sep 29 11:46:34 UTC 2018

Hi Mike. Try pulling apart the multi pin connector, the brown one, near the jumpstart terminal. Disconnect the battery first. Clean all the pins,  if they are cruddy , if you don’t have a wire brush just pull the sockets apart and push them together again several times. 

Good luck. 

In haste
Simon

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> On 29 Sep 2018, at 11:45, Michael Parris <michaeljparris at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I have been able to reseat the 14 way in engine and earth strap. It tries to start and dies.
> 
> 
>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2018, 12:40 Michael Parris via 928uk, <928uk at lists.928.org.uk> wrote:
>> I can't do anything till I get to services after being recovered. Still waiting. Tell me more about the accident switch? I can't research it from here and don't want to work on the car on the shoulder.
>> 
>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2018, 12:09 Jan-Willem Labeij via 928uk, <928uk at lists.928.org.uk> wrote:
>>> There is an accident cut off switch to stop the engine in case of a big jolt, these always have a reset. Unfortunately I do not know the location but it should be in the engine bay.
>>> 
>>> JeWe
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 29 Sep 2018, at 10:57, Adrian Langford via 928uk <928uk at lists.928.org.uk> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Or going for simpler possibilities - maybe the shock damaged one of the key relays - pump, LH or EZK in which case you can swap in horn relay to rest, or maybe carrying spare 53?
>>>> 
>>>> Adrian
>>>> 
>>>>> On 29 Sep 2018, at 10:51, Adrian Langford via 928uk <928uk at lists.928.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> That sounds a pain Mike - do you have breakdown/recovery cover if necessary?
>>>>> 
>>>>> My thoughts turned to which connectors/components would stop fuel/ignition. Maybe shock fractured CPS coil?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Adrian
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 29 Sep 2018, at 10:34, Michael Parris <michaeljparris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Currently stranded, ran over a pothole at 75 and engine stopped and won't restart, just turns over. Tried reseating a few electronic things.  Can't do much more on shoulder as dangerous. Waiting for cops to arrive.
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>> 90s4 deaded
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018, 19:32 Kevin Fearon via 928uk, <928uk at lists.928.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have this bulb check problem with my S2, and haven't yet been able to sort it out. Ignition on, check lights lit for under a second. I can hear a click from a relay behind the centre console that coincides with the warning lights going out even though the engine hasn't started. On my 1985 car there is a bank of four relays behind the radio and I can feel one of them clicking synchronous with the check lights extinguishing. I haven't had any alternator problems, and have changed the warning system module with one from another car; problem remains.
>>>>>>> I'm starting to think it is related to terminal 50 from the ignition switch but haven't investigated further yet.
>>>>>>> I've done an internet trawl for any relevant information and compiled it into a work document. I'll dig it out and post it up.
>>>>>>> Good luck, and let me know if you fix it? Thanks.
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Kindest regards,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Kevin
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From: Paul via 928uk <928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
>>>>>>> To: 928 List <928uk at lists.928.org.uk> 
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, 28 September 2018, 9:17
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [928uk] Emergency Alternator Question
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Although the Alternator Failure hasn't returned I now have a new symptom of something that has gone awry
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> When switching on the ignition, the 'bulb check' only lasts for half a second before the the dash changes to 'engine running' status, although it hasn't been started
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This means I have flashing central warning lamp for low oil pressure
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This has never happened before, and definitely coincides with the alternator failure yesterday
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It is unlikely that I am going to go out of my way to try to fix this, but if it has a known cause then that would be very useful to know
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>> 87 S4 Manual
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 at 12:31, Simon <simon at acs-online.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> Cool!! 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Driving is better than washing & polishing!. Never wash the car before going on something critical like two days at the ring! As you know I have turned up in my green one very dirty and just love driving it and maintaining it but even though it is usually dirtier the rain it is still admired!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Before the 40th anniversary me last year I got someone to wash my black GTS which is never ever let me down and I told him not to squirt too much water over the windscreen and bonnet and guess what he did. And water got in somewhere and I was up all night rectifying the problem and arrived late at lunchtime. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And on my green car I washed it in Devon which had very high water pressure and the brains got wet and had to be sorted out. . All because of washing. Grrr!!  Geoff Symonds very kindly lent me two of his. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Have a great time! Be back with you next year Paul. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>> Simon
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 27 Sep 2018, at 12:15, Paul <ukkid35 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I agree with you - Leave Well Alone!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Done several more laps without issue so I think Smiffy is right
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> My mistake was putting the car through the car wash and then driving just 100 yards before leaving it overnight
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Water must have pooled somewhere and then caused a soaking once the hard cornering started
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On the second red flag now, but the weather is great so will be enjoying the sun during the break
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>> 87 S4 Manual
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 at 11:13, Simon <simon at acs-online.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>> PS. I have just re-read your email. If the alternator is working now I would leave everything well alone and only do actions if it fails again. 
>>>>>>>> Good luck and all the best, 
>>>>>>>> Simon
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 27 Sep 2018, at 11:09, Simon <simon at acs-online.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Oh no! Poor you, you don’t have much luck at the Ring do you mate?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I have some thoughts. 
>>>>>>>>> 1. Why bother with the heated rear screen? Sometimes the relay sticks and causes trouble so I would pull the relay. 
>>>>>>>>> 2. Go and buy a spare battery and a charger. I would’ve thought both batteries would last you for the day even if the alternator is not chucking power out. It may come on and off and charge from time to time. I expect Darren would let you plug your other battery and charger in at Mission control in the Ring Taxi office. 
>>>>>>>>> 3. Wiggle the alternator fuse and relay if they exist. 
>>>>>>>>> 4. Disconnect the battery and loosen off the jumpstart terminal and wiggle/clean all the wires on it. 
>>>>>>>>> 5. I know this is emergency stuff and not good practice but you are in that situation now. Try spraying some WD-40 into the alternator that might just clean up the contacts on the brushes or something or even belt the thing with a hammer & 1/2 inch drive extension bar and get a new one when you get home. ! 
>>>>>>>>> This is only what I would do in an emergency. But it is an emergency because you have paid a lot of money and gone all the way out there and you need to get the laps in mate!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> GGOD LUCK!!!!
>>>>>>>>> Say hi to my favourite place on Earth. I LOVE the Ring and sorry not to be there this time. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> All the best Paul & in haste as I am away, Best regards Simon
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> PS if you need me to look up fuse really charts or anything like that email me and I will try and help. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> > On 27 Sep 2018, at 08:30, Paul <ukkid35 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>> > Hi
>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>> > The alternator cut out half way through my first lap at the Ring
>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>> > I kept going and about 2 or 3 mins later it came back again, and has been working for last 20 miles or so
>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>> > Symptoms were alternator light on, voltage gauge at min, tacho pegged at 5k
>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>> > The car was fine first thing in the morning, and I switch on everything: lights, rear defrost, front defrost etc
>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>> > But 20 mins later during the first lap the alternator fails
>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>> > I did put the car through a car wash last night, but the jump start terminal does have the cover, and the multi-way plug was dry when I checked it just now
>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>> > Belt tension is good, no sign of contamination, and no weird noises
>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>> > Any suggestions as to the cause?
>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>> > Any predictions about what might happen next?
>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>> > Thanks - Paul
>>>>>>>>> > 87 S4 Manual
>>>>>>>>> > 
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