[928uk] Car broke in Belgium

Sat Sep 29 14:00:23 UTC 2018

I'm not sure what company I'm with as it's through our bank.  They said not
possible to flat bed it.

I know the GTS has sensors up under the dash for accident that wouldn't be
on a 1990 Japan model would it?
I'm not sure if I got the connectors on the relay socket properly to test
for voltage. I wasn't getting any from 87 and 30 of the FP relay.
So could be something cuts the voltage to that socket to stop fuel in a
bump?

On Sat, 29 Sep 2018, 15:46 Andrew Brierley, <brierley28 at virginmedia.com>
wrote:

> Mike its a long time go (2000) so regulations may be different now my GT
> broke down in Germany. I had RAC European cover and they recovered the car
> all the way to Loe Bank Motors. I got a lift with George Layton to Dover
> and RAC paid for a hire car for me to drive from Dover to home. They did
> offer a repair in Germany but I refused.
> Maybe be worth exploring(insisting) if you can get it recovered to home on
> a flatbed.
> Cheers
> Andrew
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 29 Sep 2018, at 14:30, Michael Parris <michaeljparris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Nope, tried all I can it's not running.
> Car staying in Belgium and taken to Porsche on Monday. Crap knows what
> that's going to cost me.
> We are going home by train from Brussels. Insurance will pay all that and
> for me to come back to collect car. No idea what they'll do with car if it
> can't be fixed as cars have to go on train or ferry under own power.
> Doubt I'll do the IOW trip now.
>
> On Sat, 29 Sep 2018, 14:28 Michael Parris, <michaeljparris at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Fuel pump doesn't run even bridged. Trying to reverse polarity to see if
>> frees
>>
>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2018, 12:40 Michael Parris via 928uk, <
>> 928uk at lists.928.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> I can't do anything till I get to services after being recovered. Still
>>> waiting. Tell me more about the accident switch? I can't research it from
>>> here and don't want to work on the car on the shoulder.
>>>
>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2018, 12:09 Jan-Willem Labeij via 928uk, <
>>> 928uk at lists.928.org.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> There is an accident cut off switch to stop the engine in case of a big
>>>> jolt, these always have a reset. Unfortunately I do not know the location
>>>> but it should be in the engine bay.
>>>>
>>>> JeWe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 29 Sep 2018, at 10:57, Adrian Langford via 928uk <
>>>> 928uk at lists.928.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Or going for simpler possibilities - maybe the shock damaged one of the
>>>> key relays - pump, LH or EZK in which case you can swap in horn relay to
>>>> rest, or maybe carrying spare 53?
>>>>
>>>> Adrian
>>>>
>>>> On 29 Sep 2018, at 10:51, Adrian Langford via 928uk <
>>>> 928uk at lists.928.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> That sounds a pain Mike - do you have breakdown/recovery cover if
>>>> necessary?
>>>>
>>>> My thoughts turned to which connectors/components would stop
>>>> fuel/ignition. Maybe shock fractured CPS coil?
>>>>
>>>> Adrian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 29 Sep 2018, at 10:34, Michael Parris <michaeljparris at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Currently stranded, ran over a pothole at 75 and engine stopped and
>>>> won't restart, just turns over. Tried reseating a few electronic things.
>>>> Can't do much more on shoulder as dangerous. Waiting for cops to arrive.
>>>> Mike
>>>> 90s4 deaded
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018, 19:32 Kevin Fearon via 928uk, <
>>>> 928uk at lists.928.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have this bulb check problem with my S2, and haven't yet been able
>>>>> to sort it out. Ignition on, check lights lit for under a second. I can
>>>>> hear a click from a relay behind the centre console that coincides with the
>>>>> warning lights going out even though the engine hasn't started. On my 1985
>>>>> car there is a bank of four relays behind the radio and I can feel one of
>>>>> them clicking synchronous with the check lights extinguishing. I haven't
>>>>> had any alternator problems, and have changed the warning system module
>>>>> with one from another car; problem remains.
>>>>> I'm starting to think it is related to terminal 50 from the ignition
>>>>> switch but haven't investigated further yet.
>>>>> I've done an internet trawl for any relevant information and compiled
>>>>> it into a work document. I'll dig it out and post it up.
>>>>> Good luck, and let me know if you fix it? Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kindest regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Kevin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> *From:* Paul via 928uk <928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
>>>>> *To:* 928 List <928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, 28 September 2018, 9:17
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [928uk] Emergency Alternator Question
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> Although the Alternator Failure hasn't returned I now have a new
>>>>> symptom of something that has gone awry
>>>>>
>>>>> When switching on the ignition, the 'bulb check' only lasts for half a
>>>>> second before the the dash changes to 'engine running' status, although it
>>>>> hasn't been started
>>>>>
>>>>> This means I have flashing central warning lamp for low oil pressure
>>>>>
>>>>> This has never happened before, and definitely coincides with the
>>>>> alternator failure yesterday
>>>>>
>>>>> It is unlikely that I am going to go out of my way to try to fix this,
>>>>> but if it has a known cause then that would be very useful to know
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul
>>>>> 87 S4 Manual
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 at 12:31, Simon <simon at acs-online.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Cool!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Driving is better than washing & polishing!. Never wash the car before
>>>>> going on something critical like two days at the ring! As you know I have
>>>>> turned up in my green one very dirty and just love driving it and
>>>>> maintaining it but even though it is usually dirtier the rain it is still
>>>>> admired!
>>>>>
>>>>> Before the 40th anniversary me last year I got someone to wash my
>>>>> black GTS which is never ever let me down and I told him not to squirt too
>>>>> much water over the windscreen and bonnet and guess what he did. And water
>>>>> got in somewhere and I was up all night rectifying the problem and arrived
>>>>> late at lunchtime.
>>>>>
>>>>> And on my green car I washed it in Devon which had very high water
>>>>> pressure and the brains got wet and had to be sorted out. . All because of
>>>>> washing. Grrr!!  Geoff Symonds very kindly lent me two of his.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have a great time! Be back with you next year Paul.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best
>>>>> Simon
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On 27 Sep 2018, at 12:15, Paul <ukkid35 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree with you - Leave Well Alone!
>>>>>
>>>>> Done several more laps without issue so I think Smiffy is right
>>>>>
>>>>> My mistake was putting the car through the car wash and then driving
>>>>> just 100 yards before leaving it overnight
>>>>>
>>>>> Water must have pooled somewhere and then caused a soaking once the
>>>>> hard cornering started
>>>>>
>>>>> On the second red flag now, but the weather is great so will be
>>>>> enjoying the sun during the break
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul
>>>>> 87 S4 Manual
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 at 11:13, Simon <simon at acs-online.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> PS. I have just re-read your email. If the alternator is working now I
>>>>> would leave everything well alone and only do actions if it fails again.
>>>>> Good luck and all the best,
>>>>> Simon
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On 27 Sep 2018, at 11:09, Simon <simon at acs-online.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh no! Poor you, you don’t have much luck at the Ring do you mate?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have some thoughts.
>>>>> 1. Why bother with the heated rear screen? Sometimes the relay sticks
>>>>> and causes trouble so I would pull the relay.
>>>>> 2. Go and buy a spare battery and a charger. I would’ve thought both
>>>>> batteries would last you for the day even if the alternator is not chucking
>>>>> power out. It may come on and off and charge from time to time. I expect
>>>>> Darren would let you plug your other battery and charger in at Mission
>>>>> control in the Ring Taxi office.
>>>>> 3. Wiggle the alternator fuse and relay if they exist.
>>>>> 4. Disconnect the battery and loosen off the jumpstart terminal and
>>>>> wiggle/clean all the wires on it.
>>>>> 5. I know this is emergency stuff and not good practice but you are in
>>>>> that situation now. Try spraying some WD-40 into the alternator that might
>>>>> just clean up the contacts on the brushes or something or even belt the
>>>>> thing with a hammer & 1/2 inch drive extension bar and get a new one when
>>>>> you get home. !
>>>>> This is only what I would do in an emergency. But it is an emergency
>>>>> because you have paid a lot of money and gone all the way out there and you
>>>>> need to get the laps in mate!
>>>>>
>>>>> GGOD LUCK!!!!
>>>>> Say hi to my favourite place on Earth. I LOVE the Ring and sorry not
>>>>> to be there this time.
>>>>>
>>>>> All the best Paul & in haste as I am away, Best regards Simon
>>>>>
>>>>> PS if you need me to look up fuse really charts or anything like that
>>>>> email me and I will try and help.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> > On 27 Sep 2018, at 08:30, Paul <ukkid35 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Hi
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The alternator cut out half way through my first lap at the Ring
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I kept going and about 2 or 3 mins later it came back again, and has
>>>>> been working for last 20 miles or so
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Symptoms were alternator light on, voltage gauge at min, tacho
>>>>> pegged at 5k
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The car was fine first thing in the morning, and I switch on
>>>>> everything: lights, rear defrost, front defrost etc
>>>>> >
>>>>> > But 20 mins later during the first lap the alternator fails
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I did put the car through a car wash last night, but the jump start
>>>>> terminal does have the cover, and the multi-way plug was dry when I checked
>>>>> it just now
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Belt tension is good, no sign of contamination, and no weird noises
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Any suggestions as to the cause?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Any predictions about what might happen next?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks - Paul
>>>>> > 87 S4 Manual
>>>>> >
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