[928uk] Car broke in Belgium
Richard Armstrong
richard at ritech-systems.com
Sun Sep 30 09:19:02 UTC 2018
Mike
Has your LH been rebuilt by JDS?
Richard
On 29-Sep-18 3:51 PM, Simon Crowe via 928uk wrote:
> Mike
>
> The GTS sensors, one each side of the car under the dash, are the
> airbag sensors. These are wired into a specific airbag system.
>
> If they can’t fix it or flatbed it, make sure they don’t tow is too
> far with the rear wheels turning on the road. The gearboxes don’t like
> it .
>
> Simon
>
>
>
> On 29 Sep 2018, at 15:00, Michael Parris <michaeljparris at gmail.com
> <mailto:michaeljparris at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure what company I'm with as it's through our bank. They
>> said not possible to flat bed it.
>>
>> I know the GTS has sensors up under the dash for accident that
>> wouldn't be on a 1990 Japan model would it?
>> I'm not sure if I got the connectors on the relay socket properly to
>> test for voltage. I wasn't getting any from 87 and 30 of the FP relay.
>> So could be something cuts the voltage to that socket to stop fuel in
>> a bump?
>>
>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2018, 15:46 Andrew Brierley,
>> <brierley28 at virginmedia.com <mailto:brierley28 at virginmedia.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Mike its a long time go (2000) so regulations may be different
>> now my GT broke down in Germany. I had RAC European cover and
>> they recovered the car all the way to Loe Bank Motors. I got a
>> lift with George Layton to Dover and RAC paid for a hire car for
>> me to drive from Dover to home. They did offer a repair in
>> Germany but I refused.
>> Maybe be worth exploring(insisting) if you can get it recovered
>> to home on a flatbed.
>> Cheers
>> Andrew
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 29 Sep 2018, at 14:30, Michael Parris
>> <michaeljparris at gmail.com <mailto:michaeljparris at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> Nope, tried all I can it's not running.
>>> Car staying in Belgium and taken to Porsche on Monday. Crap
>>> knows what that's going to cost me.
>>> We are going home by train from Brussels. Insurance will pay all
>>> that and for me to come back to collect car. No idea what
>>> they'll do with car if it can't be fixed as cars have to go on
>>> train or ferry under own power.
>>> Doubt I'll do the IOW trip now.
>>>
>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2018, 14:28 Michael Parris,
>>> <michaeljparris at gmail.com <mailto:michaeljparris at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Fuel pump doesn't run even bridged. Trying to reverse
>>> polarity to see if frees
>>>
>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2018, 12:40 Michael Parris via 928uk,
>>> <928uk at lists.928.org.uk <mailto:928uk at lists.928.org.uk>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I can't do anything till I get to services after being
>>> recovered. Still waiting. Tell me more about the
>>> accident switch? I can't research it from here and don't
>>> want to work on the car on the shoulder.
>>>
>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2018, 12:09 Jan-Willem Labeij via 928uk,
>>> <928uk at lists.928.org.uk <mailto:928uk at lists.928.org.uk>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> There is an accident cut off switch to stop the
>>> engine in case of a big jolt, these always have a
>>> reset. Unfortunately I do not know the location but
>>> it should be in the engine bay.
>>>
>>> JeWe
>>>
>>>
>>> On 29 Sep 2018, at 10:57, Adrian Langford via 928uk
>>> <928uk at lists.928.org.uk
>>> <mailto:928uk at lists.928.org.uk>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Or going for simpler possibilities - maybe the
>>>> shock damaged one of the key relays - pump, LH or
>>>> EZK in which case you can swap in horn relay to
>>>> rest, or maybe carrying spare 53?
>>>>
>>>> Adrian
>>>>
>>>> On 29 Sep 2018, at 10:51, Adrian Langford via 928uk
>>>> <928uk at lists.928.org.uk
>>>> <mailto:928uk at lists.928.org.uk>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That sounds a pain Mike - do you have
>>>>> breakdown/recovery cover if necessary?
>>>>>
>>>>> My thoughts turned to which connectors/components
>>>>> would stop fuel/ignition. Maybe shock fractured
>>>>> CPS coil?
>>>>>
>>>>> Adrian
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 29 Sep 2018, at 10:34, Michael Parris
>>>>> <michaeljparris at gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:michaeljparris at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Currently stranded, ran over a pothole at 75 and
>>>>>> engine stopped and won't restart, just turns
>>>>>> over. Tried reseating a few electronic things.
>>>>>> Can't do much more on shoulder as dangerous.
>>>>>> Waiting for cops to arrive.
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>> 90s4 deaded
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018, 19:32 Kevin Fearon via
>>>>>> 928uk, <928uk at lists.928.org.uk
>>>>>> <mailto:928uk at lists.928.org.uk>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have this bulb check problem with my S2,
>>>>>> and haven't yet been able to sort it out.
>>>>>> Ignition on, check lights lit for under a
>>>>>> second. I can hear a click from a relay
>>>>>> behind the centre console that coincides with
>>>>>> the warning lights going out even though the
>>>>>> engine hasn't started. On my 1985 car there
>>>>>> is a bank of four relays behind the radio and
>>>>>> I can feel one of them clicking synchronous
>>>>>> with the check lights extinguishing. I
>>>>>> haven't had any alternator problems, and have
>>>>>> changed the warning system module with one
>>>>>> from another car; problem remains.
>>>>>> I'm starting to think it is related to
>>>>>> terminal 50 from the ignition switch but
>>>>>> haven't investigated further yet.
>>>>>> I've done an internet trawl for any relevant
>>>>>> information and compiled it into a work
>>>>>> document. I'll dig it out and post it up.
>>>>>> Good luck, and let me know if you fix it? Thanks.
>>>>>> Kindest regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kevin
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> *From:* Paul via 928uk
>>>>>> <928uk at lists.928.org.uk
>>>>>> <mailto:928uk at lists.928.org.uk>>
>>>>>> *To:* 928 List <928uk at lists.928.org.uk
>>>>>> <mailto:928uk at lists.928.org.uk>>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, 28 September 2018, 9:17
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [928uk] Emergency Alternator
>>>>>> Question
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Although the Alternator Failure hasn't
>>>>>> returned I now have a new symptom of
>>>>>> something that has gone awry
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When switching on the ignition, the 'bulb
>>>>>> check' only lasts for half a second before
>>>>>> the the dash changes to 'engine running'
>>>>>> status, although it hasn't been started
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This means I have flashing central warning
>>>>>> lamp for low oil pressure
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This has never happened before, and
>>>>>> definitely coincides with the alternator
>>>>>> failure yesterday
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is unlikely that I am going to go out of
>>>>>> my way to try to fix this, but if it has a
>>>>>> known cause then that would be very useful to
>>>>>> know
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>> 87 S4 Manual
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 at 12:31, Simon
>>>>>> <simon at acs-online.co.uk
>>>>>> <mailto:simon at acs-online.co.uk>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cool!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Driving is better than washing &
>>>>>> polishing!. Never wash the car before
>>>>>> going on something critical like two days
>>>>>> at the ring! As you know I have turned up
>>>>>> in my green one very dirty and just love
>>>>>> driving it and maintaining it but even
>>>>>> though it is usually dirtier the rain it
>>>>>> is still admired!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Before the 40th anniversary me last year
>>>>>> I got someone to wash my black GTS which
>>>>>> is never ever let me down and I told him
>>>>>> not to squirt too much water over the
>>>>>> windscreen and bonnet and guess what he
>>>>>> did. And water got in somewhere and I was
>>>>>> up all night rectifying the problem and
>>>>>> arrived late at lunchtime.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And on my green car I washed it in Devon
>>>>>> which had very high water pressure and
>>>>>> the brains got wet and had to be sorted
>>>>>> out. . All because of washing. Grrr!!
>>>>>> Geoff Symonds very kindly lent me two of
>>>>>> his.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have a great time! Be back with you next
>>>>>> year Paul.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best
>>>>>> Simon
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 27 Sep 2018, at 12:15, Paul
>>>>>> <ukkid35 at gmail.com
>>>>>> <mailto:ukkid35 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree with you - Leave Well Alone!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Done several more laps without issue so
>>>>>>> I think Smiffy is right
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My mistake was putting the car through
>>>>>>> the car wash and then driving just 100
>>>>>>> yards before leaving it overnight
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Water must have pooled somewhere and
>>>>>>> then caused a soaking once the hard
>>>>>>> cornering started
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On the second red flag now, but the
>>>>>>> weather is great so will be enjoying the
>>>>>>> sun during the break
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>> 87 S4 Manual
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 at 11:13, Simon
>>>>>>> <simon at acs-online.co.uk
>>>>>>> <mailto:simon at acs-online.co.uk>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PS. I have just re-read your email.
>>>>>>> If the alternator is working now I
>>>>>>> would leave everything well alone
>>>>>>> and only do actions if it fails again.
>>>>>>> Good luck and all the best,
>>>>>>> Simon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 27 Sep 2018, at 11:09, Simon
>>>>>>> <simon at acs-online.co.uk
>>>>>>> <mailto:simon at acs-online.co.uk>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh no! Poor you, you don’t have
>>>>>>>> much luck at the Ring do you mate?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have some thoughts.
>>>>>>>> 1. Why bother with the heated rear
>>>>>>>> screen? Sometimes the relay sticks
>>>>>>>> and causes trouble so I would pull
>>>>>>>> the relay.
>>>>>>>> 2. Go and buy a spare battery and a
>>>>>>>> charger. I would’ve thought both
>>>>>>>> batteries would last you for the
>>>>>>>> day even if the alternator is not
>>>>>>>> chucking power out. It may come on
>>>>>>>> and off and charge from time to
>>>>>>>> time. I expect Darren would let you
>>>>>>>> plug your other battery and charger
>>>>>>>> in at Mission control in the Ring
>>>>>>>> Taxi office.
>>>>>>>> 3. Wiggle the alternator fuse and
>>>>>>>> relay if they exist.
>>>>>>>> 4. Disconnect the battery and
>>>>>>>> loosen off the jumpstart terminal
>>>>>>>> and wiggle/clean all the wires on it.
>>>>>>>> 5. I know this is emergency stuff
>>>>>>>> and not good practice but you are
>>>>>>>> in that situation now. Try spraying
>>>>>>>> some WD-40 into the alternator that
>>>>>>>> might just clean up the contacts on
>>>>>>>> the brushes or something or even
>>>>>>>> belt the thing with a hammer & 1/2
>>>>>>>> inch drive extension bar and get a
>>>>>>>> new one when you get home. !
>>>>>>>> This is only what I would do in an
>>>>>>>> emergency. But it is an emergency
>>>>>>>> because you have paid a lot of
>>>>>>>> money and gone all the way out
>>>>>>>> there and you need to get the laps
>>>>>>>> in mate!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> GGOD LUCK!!!!
>>>>>>>> Say hi to my favourite place on
>>>>>>>> Earth. I LOVE the Ring and sorry
>>>>>>>> not to be there this time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All the best Paul & in haste as I
>>>>>>>> am away, Best regards Simon
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> PS if you need me to look up fuse
>>>>>>>> really charts or anything like that
>>>>>>>> email me and I will try and help.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > On 27 Sep 2018, at 08:30, Paul
>>>>>>>> <ukkid35 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:ukkid35 at gmail.com%3E> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Hi
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > The alternator cut out half way
>>>>>>>> through my first lap at the Ring
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > I kept going and about 2 or 3
>>>>>>>> mins later it came back again, and
>>>>>>>> has been working for last 20 miles
>>>>>>>> or so
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Symptoms were alternator light
>>>>>>>> on, voltage gauge at min, tacho
>>>>>>>> pegged at 5k
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > The car was fine first thing in
>>>>>>>> the morning, and I switch on
>>>>>>>> everything: lights, rear defrost,
>>>>>>>> front defrost etc
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > But 20 mins later during the
>>>>>>>> first lap the alternator fails
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > I did put the car through a car
>>>>>>>> wash last night, but the jump start
>>>>>>>> terminal does have the cover, and
>>>>>>>> the multi-way plug was dry when I
>>>>>>>> checked it just now
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Belt tension is good, no sign of
>>>>>>>> contamination, and no weird noises
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Any suggestions as to the cause?
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Any predictions about what might
>>>>>>>> happen next?
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Thanks - Paul
>>>>>>>> > 87 S4 Manual
>>>>>>>> >
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