[928uk] GTS Article

[phil rick]

hi Andrew
yes personally i cannot see the point of a classic car magazine, if i
wanted to by a classic car, just as a pure example a Jenson, the reason i
would want to buy one is usually:
member of family had one years ago
saw one as a kid and always wanted one
could now afford it.
the above 3 reasons would over ride anything i saw in an article in a
magazine from a motoring journalist who has no specific knowledge of the
car in question
so would now join an online group who had first hand experience of the
model and could guide me as to what to look for and buy.
all the information about them is online now and always will be.

as to the manual 928, on an early sunday morning blast on deserted roads
they are nice to drive, but as a daily driver into the city for the first
owner out of the showroom, i can see why most were auto's, i must be
getting old and ffing infirm but an auto is actually starting to appeal to
me and am going to look at one the week after next, but its maybe just the
heat affecting my brain 😱

anyway most important thing is for all of us old and infirm folk to stay
safe for the next couple of days

cheers
Phil


On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 5:06 PM Andrew Brierley <brierley28 at virginmedia.com>
wrote:

> Hi Phil
> So what you are saying is all classic car magazines should be scrapped 😀.
> They usually cover driving/road tests as well as maintenance.
> Obviously it’s personal opinion but I think the whole point is how has a
> 30 year old car aged and how does it drive looking through modern eyes.
> Those of us that have been involved with the 928 world for best part of 30
> years have of course read all the original road tests……. and how rubbish
> they were. The 928 generally gets better reviews now than it did
> originally. Remember how the original tests slated the manual saying it was
> hard to drive with dog leg gearbox, poor pedal spacing and hard to place on
> the road. As you know none of those things are true, the manual is a
> brilliant drive. Those testers should have been made baggage handlers years
> ago.👍😂.
> In the case of 911 & Porsche World what was the point in those journalists
> taking three cars for a drive without one comment about them. As Adrian
> said just an advert for the dealer.
> The wrong facts, wonder where they got them from??
> Cheers
> Andrew
>
>
> > On 17 Jul 2022, at 17:26, phil rick <philrickse at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > hi Simon
> > yes they should get their facts correct, that should be a given.
> > it is just i cannot see the point of a new article about a car that
> ceased
> > production years ago, all the information about it is out there and has
> > been for years
> > todays newspapers don't have news from the 1990's
> >
> > motoring journalists should get paid to tell us about new vehicles, then
> > the other half of the day they could get a second job as a baggage
> handler
> > etc etc 😁👍
> >
> > anyway enjoy your TVR and keep safe over the next few days.
> >
> > cheers
> > Phil
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 1:34 PM Simon Watson via 928uk <
> >> 928uk at lists.928.org.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all
> >>
> >> I do see what you mean Phil, but if a professional motoring journalist
> is
> >> being paid to write the article and arrange the cars and photography
> etc  I
> >> don’t feel sorry for them because they should write a decent article.
> >>
> >> If I was being paid to do it, on say a Nissan Skyline, all I know about
> >> the older ones is they were absolutely blisteringly fast and had a big
> >> following.
> >>
> >> So I would like to think that I would go to the trouble to research them
> >> and right a really good article   I’d get some known enthusiasts’ top
> cars
> >> along and research it properly with owners and get owners views and also
> >> pick interesting bits from previous articles to make it a thoroughly
> >> interesting and well informed article. I would not want readers
> thinking,
> >> like we all are, that the guys writing that GTS article had written
> >> incorrect information and what sounds like a rather boring article.
> >>
> >> Those of us who know 928s well and as Andrew says know a good one from a
> >> not so a good one can enthuse hugely about what wonderful cars they are.
> >> And how they perform and what they are like to drive etc. It would not
> take
> >> me long to find people like that in the Skyline world if I was doing an
> >> article for a magazine.  So if I could, why can’t they be bothered to?
> >>
> >> Anyway, we all love our 928s and that is the main thing!
> >>
> >> That’s my 2p worth!
> >>
> >> All the best and have a great Sunday. I for my Sunday have been out in
> one
> >> of my TVRs. I crossed to the “dark side”!!, rather I have added two TVRs
> >> from the dark side to my collection of cars over the last few years.
> It is
> >> fun to have some different cars from 928s as well. TVRs are actually
> really
> >> good fun and I’m collecting a really beautiful bonkers one from
> specialists
> >> the week after next.
> >>
> >> All the best
> >> Simon
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On 17 Jul 2022, at 12:16, Adrian Langford via 928uk <
> >> 928uk at lists.928.org.uk> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I felt same way Andrew and made same point on the FB group. The author
> >> had just copied out Wikipedia and it was hard to see what extra was
> added
> >> by the examples chosen, other than a puff for the dealer selling one or
> two
> >> of the cars.
> >>>
> >>> Being charitable the print publishing world is under fantastic
> pressure,
> >> so I can understand why they find it so hard to actually invest in
> original
> >> material. We’re so used to getting stuff for free!
> >>>
> >>> Adrian
> >>>
> >>>> On 17 Jul 2022, at 11:40, Andrew Brierley via 928uk <
> >> 928uk at lists.928.org.uk> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> From: Andrew Brierley <brie puff for the dealer selling
> >> rley28 at virginmedia.com>
> >>>> Subject: GTS Article
> >>>> Date: 17 July 2022 at 11:40:18 BST
> >>>> To: 928uk <928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> About 10 days ago I purchased the August edition of 911 & Porsche
> World
> >> specifically to read the GTS article. I saved it until I arrived on
> holiday
> >> here in Menorca, yesterday sat down to read the article I had been
> looking
> >> forward to, what a massive disappointment.
> >>>> The article is mainly a history/development of the 928, no driving
> >> impressions of the GTS cars photographed for the article, 11 pages of
> that
> >> with photos. It’s difficult to see why they would take the two autos and
> >> the one manual for a drive without making a report of how they drove.
> >> Having said that all three cars are sat far too low at the front so
> >> probably drive rubbish!
> >>>> To add insult to injury they can’t even get their facts correct, they
> >> say 44 manual GTS cars were imported into the UK and that the GTS does
> 0 to
> >> 62mph in 4.9 seconds - does not specify auto or manual. We’re know they
> are
> >> fast but unfortunately not that fast, no standard GTS ever achieved that
> >> time!
> >>>> Andrew
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>