[928uk] Recent Auction at H and H 29th November Buxton

[Richard Armstrong]

Hi Jonathan
Pauls car is manual so thrust bearing not an issue.
When I rebuilt my engine last year (Head gasket) the bottom end was nigh 
on perfect with hardly any wear on the thrust bearing despite being Auto 
(I did have a Ritech clamp of course!!). I changed athe mains and big 
ends as a matter of course.
The heads were another issue entirely. erosion was awful despite havong 
changed the anti freeze regularly. I changed the heads it was that bad. 
I will get the old ones laser welded and skinned at some stage - later 
S4 heads will become rare soon.
Balancing the crank, rods and pistons, flywheel and pulleys has made a 
noticeable difference as well. I also used Cometic head gaskets.
Richard

On 03/12/2023 13:22, Jonathan Rackowe via 928uk wrote:
> Hi Paul, have you seen your 928's thrust bearing faces and main bearings
> recently??
>
> Best regards,
> Jonathan
>
>
>
> On Sun, 3 Dec 2023, 12:41 pm Paul,<ukkid35 at gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>> My S4 engine is still running fine at 250k miles, so I'm not sure why it
>> would need a £10k rebuild
>>
>> If the head gaskets need to be replaced at some point in the future, then
>> that's a £1k job as a DIY
>>
>> Paul
>> 87 S4 Manual
>>
>> On Sat, 2 Dec 2023 at 13:55,<jonathanrackowe at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, well that's very good news 😊
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>> 928 GT 1991 Amethyst Metallic
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Adrian Langford<stratfordade at gmail.com>  On Behalf Of Adrian
>>> Langford
>>> Sent: 02 December 2023 13:21
>>> To:jonathan at rackowe.net
>>> Cc: Paul<ukkid35 at gmail.com>;jonathanrackowe at gmail.com; 928UK List <
>>> 928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
>>> Subject: Re: [928uk] Recent Auction at H and H 29th November Buxton
>>>
>>> The new owner has posted on Rennlist and is laudably keen to restore the
>>> car!
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 2 Dec 2023, at 12:39, jonathanrackowe--- via 928uk <
>>> 928uk at lists.928.org.uk> wrote:
>>>> Sure Paul, but then you'd need £10K or so to rebuild the engine
>>> properly at some not too distant point.
>>>> If the car really is roadworthy you could risk running it as it is for
>>> a year or two, assuming it passed an MOT. But at some point the big bills
>>> would start to kick in. So is £5.4K for a year or two of use really such a
>>> bargain?!
>>>> I suspect the GT will either be broken for parts - because, as you
>>> mention Paul, GT parts are at a premium - or cosmetically tarted up by a
>>> dealer to sell on at a profit to some unsuspecting individual.
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Jonathan
>>>>
>>>> 928 GT 1991 Amethyst Metallic
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: 928uk<928uk-bounces at lists.928.org.uk>  On Behalf Of Paul via
>>> 928uk
>>>> Sent: 02 December 2023 11:54
>>>> To: Adrian Langford<Adrian.langford at qualitative.co.uk>
>>>> Cc: Ken Gillett<kengroups at icloud.com>; 928 list <
>>> 928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
>>>> Subject: Re: [928uk] Recent Auction at H and H 29th November Buxton
>>>>
>>>> If you tried to buy an engine for a GT I doubt you'd get much change
>>> out of
>>>> £5k, makes the £5.4k GT look like a bargain, assuming you want a car to
>>>> drive rather than a garage queen
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>> 87 S4 Manual
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 1 Dec 2023 at 18:56, Adrian Langford via 928uk <
>>>>> 928uk at lists.928.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> My feeling is that the expansion of charging schemes for older cars
>>> will
>>>>> depress prices at the hobbyist end, unless there are more generous
>>>>> exceptions. At the insane end where cars are art I think prices will
>>>>> continue to rise for old Ferraris, Bugattis, Mercedes etc. The
>>> Uhlenhaut
>>>>> coupé fetched £114 million and wealth continues to trickle upwards!
>>>>>
>>>>> Adrian
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1 Dec 2023, at 18:02, Ken Gillett via 928uk <
>>> 928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Interesting you say that, but do you really think so? I've been
>>>>> wondering for a few years now how electrification is going to affect
>>>>> classic vehicle prices. Seems to me it could cause them to drop, or
>>> perhaps
>>>>> the opposite as they become scarcer and more 'special?
>>>>>> Not that I've been closely monitoring prices but I can't say I've seen
>>>>> much effect. The same cars that seemed too low, like 928 are still low
>>> and
>>>>> those that seemed too high, like 911s are still high.
>>>>>> Where are prices going to go over the next few years/decades?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ken  G i l l e t t
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri 1 Dec 2023, at 17:41, jonathanrackowe--- via 928uk <
>>>>> 928uk at lists.928.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> Plus the push towards EV doesn't help classic car prices
>>>>>>> generally.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>

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