[928uk] Recent Auction at H and H 29th November Buxton

[Jonathan Rackowe]

When we rebuilt my 165k mile GT engine last year the thrust bearing was
worn down to the copper. Manuals load the thrust bearing too.
Like yours the heads were a state and needed weld and skimming. The block
was okay, but as you know ignoring the known heads corrosion issue risks
corrosion to the block.

Best regards,
Jonathan

1991 928 GT Amethyst Metallic

On Sun, 3 Dec 2023, 1:55 pm Richard Armstrong via 928uk, <
928uk at lists.928.org.uk> wrote:

> Hi Jonathan
> Pauls car is manual so thrust bearing not an issue.
> When I rebuilt my engine last year (Head gasket) the bottom end was nigh
> on perfect with hardly any wear on the thrust bearing despite being Auto
> (I did have a Ritech clamp of course!!). I changed athe mains and big
> ends as a matter of course.
> The heads were another issue entirely. erosion was awful despite havong
> changed the anti freeze regularly. I changed the heads it was that bad.
> I will get the old ones laser welded and skinned at some stage - later
> S4 heads will become rare soon.
> Balancing the crank, rods and pistons, flywheel and pulleys has made a
> noticeable difference as well. I also used Cometic head gaskets.
> Richard
>
> On 03/12/2023 13:22, Jonathan Rackowe via 928uk wrote:
> > Hi Paul, have you seen your 928's thrust bearing faces and main bearings
> > recently??
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Jonathan
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 3 Dec 2023, 12:41 pm Paul,<ukkid35 at gmail.com>  wrote:
> >
> >> My S4 engine is still running fine at 250k miles, so I'm not sure why it
> >> would need a £10k rebuild
> >>
> >> If the head gaskets need to be replaced at some point in the future,
> then
> >> that's a £1k job as a DIY
> >>
> >> Paul
> >> 87 S4 Manual
> >>
> >> On Sat, 2 Dec 2023 at 13:55,<jonathanrackowe at gmail.com>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Oh, well that's very good news 😊
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Jonathan
> >>>
> >>> 928 GT 1991 Amethyst Metallic
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Adrian Langford<stratfordade at gmail.com>  On Behalf Of Adrian
> >>> Langford
> >>> Sent: 02 December 2023 13:21
> >>> To:jonathan at rackowe.net
> >>> Cc: Paul<ukkid35 at gmail.com>;jonathanrackowe at gmail.com; 928UK List <
> >>> 928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
> >>> Subject: Re: [928uk] Recent Auction at H and H 29th November Buxton
> >>>
> >>> The new owner has posted on Rennlist and is laudably keen to restore
> the
> >>> car!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On 2 Dec 2023, at 12:39, jonathanrackowe--- via 928uk <
> >>> 928uk at lists.928.org.uk> wrote:
> >>>> Sure Paul, but then you'd need £10K or so to rebuild the engine
> >>> properly at some not too distant point.
> >>>> If the car really is roadworthy you could risk running it as it is for
> >>> a year or two, assuming it passed an MOT. But at some point the big
> bills
> >>> would start to kick in. So is £5.4K for a year or two of use really
> such a
> >>> bargain?!
> >>>> I suspect the GT will either be broken for parts - because, as you
> >>> mention Paul, GT parts are at a premium - or cosmetically tarted up by
> a
> >>> dealer to sell on at a profit to some unsuspecting individual.
> >>>> Best regards,
> >>>> Jonathan
> >>>>
> >>>> 928 GT 1991 Amethyst Metallic
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: 928uk<928uk-bounces at lists.928.org.uk>  On Behalf Of Paul via
> >>> 928uk
> >>>> Sent: 02 December 2023 11:54
> >>>> To: Adrian Langford<Adrian.langford at qualitative.co.uk>
> >>>> Cc: Ken Gillett<kengroups at icloud.com>; 928 list <
> >>> 928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [928uk] Recent Auction at H and H 29th November Buxton
> >>>>
> >>>> If you tried to buy an engine for a GT I doubt you'd get much change
> >>> out of
> >>>> £5k, makes the £5.4k GT look like a bargain, assuming you want a car
> to
> >>>> drive rather than a garage queen
> >>>>
> >>>> Paul
> >>>> 87 S4 Manual
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, 1 Dec 2023 at 18:56, Adrian Langford via 928uk <
> >>>>> 928uk at lists.928.org.uk> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My feeling is that the expansion of charging schemes for older cars
> >>> will
> >>>>> depress prices at the hobbyist end, unless there are more generous
> >>>>> exceptions. At the insane end where cars are art I think prices will
> >>>>> continue to rise for old Ferraris, Bugattis, Mercedes etc. The
> >>> Uhlenhaut
> >>>>> coupé fetched £114 million and wealth continues to trickle upwards!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Adrian
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 1 Dec 2023, at 18:02, Ken Gillett via 928uk <
> >>> 928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> Interesting you say that, but do you really think so? I've been
> >>>>> wondering for a few years now how electrification is going to affect
> >>>>> classic vehicle prices. Seems to me it could cause them to drop, or
> >>> perhaps
> >>>>> the opposite as they become scarcer and more 'special?
> >>>>>> Not that I've been closely monitoring prices but I can't say I've
> seen
> >>>>> much effect. The same cars that seemed too low, like 928 are still
> low
> >>> and
> >>>>> those that seemed too high, like 911s are still high.
> >>>>>> Where are prices going to go over the next few years/decades?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ken  G i l l e t t
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Fri 1 Dec 2023, at 17:41, jonathanrackowe--- via 928uk <
> >>>>> 928uk at lists.928.org.uk> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Plus the push towards EV doesn't help classic car prices
> >>>>>>> generally.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>>>> Jonathan
> >>>
>
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