[928uk] Pistonheads Skid Pad Training at Thruxton Dec 11th - ULEZ and road charging - driving car with MOT defects

[Samuel Rees]

I have anxiety about drawing the attention of my MOT tester to this detail
in case they fail my car on the issue next time and I have to put all my
halogens back in all over the front! (and breaking the plastic surrounds in
the process.)

Sam

On Thu, 19 Jan 2023 at 11:56, <jonathan at netvue.co.uk> wrote:

> I’d suggest simply asking any MOT tester his/her opinion. I don’t think we
> have an MOT tester on the list…
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jonathan
>
>
> 928 GT 1991 Amethyst Metallic
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>
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> *From:* Samuel Rees <mail at samuelrees.com>
> *Sent:* 19 January 2023 10:44
> *To:* jonathan at rackowe.net
> *Cc:* smiffypr at gmail.com; 928uk at lists.928.org.uk; jonathan at netvue.co.uk
> *Subject:* Re: [928uk] Pistonheads Skid Pad Training at Thruxton Dec 11th
> - ULEZ and road charging - driving car with MOT defects
>
>
>
> I was just reading the section about LED headlight conversions and
> wondering since my car is an 86.5 car - but on an 87 D plate, having been
> imported (I think it was an armed services VAT free purchase in Germany)
>
>
>
> Is there any way of finding out if my car is old enough to be exempt from
> this, ie.,first used before 1 April 1986?
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>
>
> I've fitted a full set of Woodypeck front lights - driving (popup) lights,
> fogs and side lights.
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>
>
> So far my MOT garage in Sheffield hasn't failed them for 3 MOTs
> (2020-2022) . I suspect they're not pedantic in their application of some
> rules, but my car is serviced usually elsewhere, at Loe Bank.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Sam
>
> 86.5 S2 Auto Irisblau
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> On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 at 19:52, Jonathan Rackowe via 928uk <
> 928uk at lists.928.org.uk> wrote:
>
> Hi Smiffy,
>
>
>
> Please can you clarify “more things are now classified as dangerous”. I’ve
> checked the MOT inspection manual updates from 2019 to 2022 and there are
> no new ‘Dangerous’ items that I can see which could apply to our cars.
>
>
>
> One bit of good news is that the requirement for halogen headlamp units
> not to be converted to HID or LED was relaxed a bit in Mar 2021 and now
> only applies to vehicles after 1 Apr 1986:
>
>
>
> 4.1.4. Headlamps - Compliance with requirements - Changed 'Existing
> halogen headlamp units should not be converted to be used with high
> intensity discharge (HID) or light emitting diode (LED) bulbs. If such a
> conversion has been done, you must fail the headlamp.' to 'Existing halogen
> headlamp units on vehicles first used on or after 1 April 1986 must not be
> converted to be used with high intensity discharge (HID) or light emitting
> diode (LED) bulbs. If such a conversion has been done, you must fail the
> headlamp for light source and lamp not compatible.'
>
>
>
> Ref:
> https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspection-manual-for-private-passenger-and-light-commercial-vehicles/updates
>
>
>
> If anyone is aware of an online full list of MOT items that are classified
> as ‘Dangerous’ please would they share a link, as it would be a useful
> resource and I have been unable to find such a list.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jonathan
>
>
> 928 GT 1991 Amethyst Metallic
>
>
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>
> From: Paul R Smith <smiffypr at gmail.com>
> Sent: 18 January 2023 18:37
> To: jonathan at rackowe.net; 928uk at lists.928.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [928uk] Pistonheads Skid Pad Training at Thruxton Dec 11th -
> ULEZ and road charging - driving car with MOT defects
>
>
>
> One problem is that more things are now classified as dangerous, so by all
> means get your MoT done soon, but you still have to time it so that you can
> cope if it is off the road for repairs if they classify anything as
> dangerous.
>
> Smiffy
>
>
>
> On 18/01/2023 18:04, jonathan at netvue.co.uk <mailto:jonathan at netvue.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> A couple of clarifications:
>
>
>
> ULEZ charge in London is £12.50/day. It is not charged if your car is
> parked within the zone, only if you drive through a camera in the zone.
>
>
>
> The law says that you can still drive your vehicle if it fails an MOT test
> and its existing MOT certificate is still valid (i.e. if your failed test
> was before the expiry date) PROVIDED no 'Dangerous' defect was listed in
> the failed MOT. ‘Major’ defects and ‘Minor’ defects still allow you to
> drive away.
>
>
>
> If you drive with a 'Dangerous' defect listed in your new MOT you can be
> fined up to £2,500, be banned from driving and get 3 penalty points.
>
>
>
> Refs. https://www.theaa.com/mot/advice/what-do-i-do-if-my-mot-fails
>
>
> https://www.autonetinsurance.co.uk/autonet-insurance-company-blog/autonet-insurance-company-blog/2012/03/09/failed-mot-can-i-drive-my-vehicle-
>
>
>
> So always get a new MOT well before expiry of the old one – you can get a
> new MOT up to a month before expiry. You will still get a full 12 months
> new MOT from the expiry date of the old one.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jonathan
>
>
> 928 GT 1991 Amethyst Metallic
>
>