[928uk] Pistonheads Skid Pad Training at Thruxton Dec 11th - ULEZ and road charging - driving car with MOT defects

[Paul R Smith]

Sensible. The good news is that it only applies to headlamps (not 
side/fog/aux).

Smiffy

On 19/01/2023 12:03, Samuel Rees wrote:
> I have anxiety about drawing the attention of my MOT tester to this 
> detail in case they fail my car on the issue next time and I have to 
> put all my halogens back in all over the front! (and breaking the 
> plastic surrounds in the process.)
>
> Sam
>
> On Thu, 19 Jan 2023 at 11:56, <jonathan at netvue.co.uk> wrote:
>
>     I’d suggest simply asking any MOT tester his/her opinion. I don’t
>     think we have an MOT tester on the list…
>
>     Best regards,
>
>     Jonathan
>
>
>     928 GT 1991 Amethyst Metallic
>
>     *From:*Samuel Rees <mail at samuelrees.com>
>     *Sent:* 19 January 2023 10:44
>     *To:* jonathan at rackowe.net
>     *Cc:* smiffypr at gmail.com; 928uk at lists.928.org.uk;
>     jonathan at netvue.co.uk
>     *Subject:* Re: [928uk] Pistonheads Skid Pad Training at Thruxton
>     Dec 11th - ULEZ and road charging - driving car with MOT defects
>
>     I was just reading the section about LED headlight conversions and
>     wondering since my car is an 86.5 car - but on an 87 D plate,
>     having been imported (I think it was an armed services VAT free
>     purchase in Germany)
>
>     Is there any way of finding out if my car is old enough to be
>     exempt from this, ie.,first used before 1 April 1986?
>
>     I've fitted a full set of Woodypeck front lights - driving
>     (popup) lights, fogs and side lights.
>
>     So far my MOT garage in Sheffield hasn't failed them for 3 MOTs
>     (2020-2022) . I suspect they're not pedantic in their application
>     of some rules, but my car is serviced usually elsewhere, at Loe Bank.
>
>     Thanks
>
>     Sam
>
>     86.5 S2 Auto Irisblau
>
>     On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 at 19:52, Jonathan Rackowe via 928uk
>     <928uk at lists.928.org.uk> wrote:
>
>         Hi Smiffy,
>
>
>
>         Please can you clarify “more things are now classified as
>         dangerous”. I’ve checked the MOT inspection manual updates
>         from 2019 to 2022 and there are no new ‘Dangerous’ items that
>         I can see which could apply to our cars.
>
>
>
>         One bit of good news is that the requirement for halogen
>         headlamp units not to be converted to HID or LED was relaxed a
>         bit in Mar 2021 and now only applies to vehicles after 1 Apr 1986:
>
>
>
>         4.1.4. Headlamps - Compliance with requirements - Changed
>         'Existing halogen headlamp units should not be converted to be
>         used with high intensity discharge (HID) or light emitting
>         diode (LED) bulbs. If such a conversion has been done, you
>         must fail the headlamp.' to 'Existing halogen headlamp units
>         on vehicles first used on or after 1 April 1986 must not be
>         converted to be used with high intensity discharge (HID) or
>         light emitting diode (LED) bulbs. If such a conversion has
>         been done, you must fail the headlamp for light source and
>         lamp not compatible.'
>
>
>
>         Ref:
>         https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspection-manual-for-private-passenger-and-light-commercial-vehicles/updates
>
>
>
>         If anyone is aware of an online full list of MOT items that
>         are classified as ‘Dangerous’ please would they share a link,
>         as it would be a useful resource and I have been unable to
>         find such a list.
>
>
>
>         Best regards,
>
>         Jonathan
>
>
>         928 GT 1991 Amethyst Metallic
>
>
>
>
>
>         From: Paul R Smith <smiffypr at gmail.com>
>         Sent: 18 January 2023 18:37
>         To: jonathan at rackowe.net; 928uk at lists.928.org.uk
>         Subject: Re: [928uk] Pistonheads Skid Pad Training at Thruxton
>         Dec 11th - ULEZ and road charging - driving car with MOT defects
>
>
>
>         One problem is that more things are now classified as
>         dangerous, so by all means get your MoT done soon, but you
>         still have to time it so that you can cope if it is off the
>         road for repairs if they classify anything as dangerous.
>
>         Smiffy
>
>
>
>         On 18/01/2023 18:04, jonathan at netvue.co.uk
>         <mailto:jonathan at netvue.co.uk> wrote:
>
>         A couple of clarifications:
>
>
>
>         ULEZ charge in London is £12.50/day. It is not charged if your
>         car is parked within the zone, only if you drive through a
>         camera in the zone.
>
>
>
>         The law says that you can still drive your vehicle if it fails
>         an MOT test and its existing MOT certificate is still valid
>         (i.e. if your failed test was before the expiry date) PROVIDED
>         no 'Dangerous' defect was listed in the failed MOT. ‘Major’
>         defects and ‘Minor’ defects still allow you to drive away.
>
>
>
>         If you drive with a 'Dangerous' defect listed in your new MOT
>         you can be fined up to £2,500, be banned from driving and get
>         3 penalty points.
>
>
>
>         Refs.
>         https://www.theaa.com/mot/advice/what-do-i-do-if-my-mot-fails
>
>         https://www.autonetinsurance.co.uk/autonet-insurance-company-blog/autonet-insurance-company-blog/2012/03/09/failed-mot-can-i-drive-my-vehicle-
>
>
>
>         So always get a new MOT well before expiry of the old one –
>         you can get a new MOT up to a month before expiry. You will
>         still get a full 12 months new MOT from the expiry date of the
>         old one.
>
>         Best regards,
>
>         Jonathan
>
>
>         928 GT 1991 Amethyst Metallic
>