[928uk] Advice and parts - intake tubes

Simon Watson simonwatson at unitelconsultants.co.uk
Sat Jun 8 20:31:38 UTC 2024


Intake noise is good!  In my opinion. And on BMW M3 e46 cars when fitted with the CSL air box. It sounds amazing!  
Thanks for the information Smiffy, I never knew that and had always wondered why the 928 has the strangely shape tubes. 
Best Simon
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> On 8 Jun 2024, at 20:07, Paul R Smith via 928uk <928uk at lists.928.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> Correct, from the 1981 service tech info:
> "These tubes are now designed as venturi nozzles to effectively dampen the engine’s intake noise.
> Due to the aerodynamic shape the air stream is not restricted.
> Sound waves, which are pressure impulses from the engine against the direction of air stream flow,
> are reflected “inward” on the inside walls of the tapered nozzles and prevented from reaching the
> intake opening in the car’s front end.
> As on earlier models air is drawn from housing (2) through opening (1) for cooling of the toothed
> belt (3)."
> 
> I suspect only test equipment can detect the difference in the noise.
> 
> Smiffy
> 
>> On 08/06/2024 19:42, Ben Hodges wrote:
>> Isn’t the Venturi shape of the plastic ones an attempt to reduce noise too?
>> 
>> On Sat, 8 Jun 2024 at 18:48, Simon Crowe via 928uk <928uk at lists.928.org.uk> wrote:
>> 
>>    I could never hear any difference between the plastic on my S4 and
>>    the foam on my GTS.
>> 
>>    When they did finally fall apart (I think the inner wires rusted
>>    heavily and the foam detached itself) I bought a pair of
>>    plastic/rubber hoses from an Italian company, specially designed
>>    for the 928. A perfect fit and I still have them.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>    > On 8 Jun 2024, at 18:15, Paul R Smith via 928uk
>>    <928uk at lists.928.org.uk> wrote:
>>    >
>>    > According to PET, they started in 1987 for Switzerland, 1992
>>    for all markets.
>>    >
>>    > Smiffy
>>    >
>>    >> On 08/06/2024 17:25, phil rick via 928uk wrote:
>>    >> learn something new every day, i thought the crap foam hoses
>>    only came with
>>    >> the GTS, but must have started on the 91 model year
>>    >>
>>    >> On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 5:21 PM jonathanrackowe--- via 928uk <
>>    >> 928uk at lists.928.org.uk> wrote:
>>    >>
>>    >>> Oh yes, thanks, I'd forgotten that. Can't say I noticed any
>>    difference in
>>    >>> noise level when I fitted the Samco silicone tubes, but maybe
>>    that's due to
>>    >>> my de-catted custom exhaust system!  :-D
>>    >>>
>>    >>> Best regards,
>>    >>> Jonathan
>>    >>>
>>    >>> West London, England
>>    >>>
>>    >>> 1991 928 GT Amethyst Metallic with Blueflame custom exhaust
>>    and Porsche
>>    >>> 18" Sport Design wheels
>>    >>>
>>    >>>
>>    >>>
>>    >>> -----Original Message-----
>>    >>> From: 928uk<928uk-bounces at lists.928.org.uk> On Behalf Of Paul
>>    R Smith
>>    >>> via 928uk
>>    >>> Sent: 08 June 2024 15:24
>>    >>> To:928uk at lists.928.org.uk <mailto:To%3A928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
>>    >>> Subject: Re: [928uk] Advice and parts - intake tubes
>>    >>>
>>    >>> The official reason for the foam hoses was to reduce noise:
>>    >>> "All 928 GTS vehicles are fitted with noise-reducing intake
>>    hoses of the
>>    >>> same type used previously on export vehicles
>>    >>> for Switzerland."
>>    >>>  From the 1992 service tech info document.
>>    >>>
>>    >>> Smiffy
>>    >>>
>>    >>> On 08/06/2024 14:07, jonathanrackowe--- via 928uk wrote:
>>    >>>> My 928 GT has a pair of Samco SHL77 Silicone Hoses 77x640mm
>>    installed -
>>    >>> that
>>    >>>> I fitted back in 2006. They're still perfect.
>>    >>>>
>>    >>>> The foam hoses that Porsche fitted to the 928 GT and GTS were
>>    rubbish!
>>    >>> The
>>    >>>> insulation was intended to keep the intake air cool, but it
>>    disintegrated
>>    >>>> badly. Given the speed of the air rushing into the 32V V8
>>    engine I doubt
>>    >>>> that the foam hoses made any significant difference to the
>>    intake air
>>    >>>> temperature anyway.
>>    >>>>
>>    >>>> Best regards,
>>    >>>> Jonathan
>>    >>>>
>>    >>>> 1991 928 GT Amethyst Metallic
>>    >>>>
>>    >>>>
>>    >>>>
>>    >>>> -----Original Message-----
>>    >>>> From: 928uk<928uk-bounces at lists.928.org.uk>  On Behalf Of Ian
>>    Marsh via
>>    >>>> 928uk
>>    >>>> Sent: 07 June 2024 16:06
>>    >>>> To: 'Cengiz Ali'<cengizali at btinternet.com>; '928 List'
>>    >>>> <928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
>>    >>>> Subject: Re: [928uk] Advice and parts
>>    >>>>
>>    >>>> Cen,
>>    >>>>
>>    >>>> I can't help with much of what you require but I gave up
>>    looking for
>>    >>> decent
>>    >>>> intake tubes and bought a pair of Mercedes Tubes modified to
>>    fit 928's
>>    >>> from
>>    >>>> Roger and 928rus.
>>    >>>>
>>    >>>> The genuine Porsche replacements were about twice the price
>>    in in my
>>    >>> opinion
>>    >>>> inferior in design.
>>    >>>>
>>    >>>> Hope this helps
>>    >>>>
>>    >>>> Regards
>>    >>>>
>>    >>>> Ian
>>    >>>>
>>    >>>> Ian J Marsh
>>    >>>> Regional Organiser
>>    >>>> 07976 242344
>>    >>>> West Country Region
>>    >>>>
>>    >>>>
>>    >>>>
>>    >>>> -----Original Message-----
>>    >>>> From: 928uk<928uk-bounces at lists.928.org.uk>  On Behalf Of
>>    Cengiz Ali via
>>    >>>> 928uk
>>    >>>> Sent: Friday, June 7, 2024 4:01 PM
>>    >>>> To: 928 List<928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
>>    >>>> Subject: [928uk] Advice and parts
>>    >>>>
>>    >>>> Hi All,
>>    >>>>
>>    >>>> It was good to see some of you at Simply last weekend.
>>    >>>>
>>    >>>> A few things please:
>>    >>>>
>>    >>>> Does anyone on the list know if the warning triangle
>>    originally came in a
>>    >>>> storage bag (similar to the jack)? If so are they available
>>    or does
>>    >>> anyone
>>    >>>> have one they are willing to sell?
>>    >>>>
>>    >>>> Also, I have an old Porsche tyre inflator, the one that is in
>>    its own
>>    >>> black
>>    >>>> plastic box and runs off the cigarette lighter. It runs but
>>    is pretty
>>    >>> weak
>>    >>>> and not producing enough air to fill a tyre, can these be
>>    repaired?
>>    >>>>
>>    >>>> Also, does anyone have a very good black plastic intake pipe
>>    that runs
>>    >>>> either side of the air box to the front of the car ducts they
>>    want to
>>    >>> sell?
>>    >>>> Many thanks
>>    >>>> Cen
>>    >>>> S2 auto 86.5
>>    >>>>
>>    >>>>
>>    >>>
>> 


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