[928uk] Speculation on red SE

[jon928se at gmail.com]

As far as I am concerned my email hopefully removed the doubt cast by Jonathan Rackowe by "confirming " that a different SE was the one suspected of having had an engine swap. Which is why I provided the  VIN number of that other car to confirm it is not your SE. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Lacey <t595 at btinternet.com> 
Sent: 16 June 2024 17:13
To: jon928se at gmail.com
Cc: jonathan at rackowe.net; 928uk List <928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [928uk] Speculation on red SE

Wow, you guys seriously need to piss off.
The car you have suddenly entered into this has nothing whatsoever to do with mine.
Nobody understands what you’re on about and all it’s doing is casting doubt on my car.
Very sadly it’s time I leave this group as it contains some inconsiderate twats and I don’t need it.

My last post to this list. To the rest of you my best wishes, enjoy your most excellent cars !


Paul L


Sent from mobile device, please excuse typos

> On 16 Jun 2024, at 07:31, jon928se at gmail.com wrote:
> 
> All
> 
> My records suggest that
> 
> WP0ZZZ92ZJS841930
> Possible Reg PVF928
> 
> Was auctioned by Charterhouse Auctions July 2016, no longer has an SE 
> engine and seats are sports seats but not SE trim.
> 
> The only record I have of Pauls SE is that it is the 7th built and 
> according to DVLA some time ago was damaged in 1970!!! So who knows if 
> that info is correct. And had a number plate change in 1990.
> 
> One question - does it have the rear wheel spacers fitted in the 
> photos - the wheels appear to far inset relative to the wheel arches.
> 
> Jon H in Sydney
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 928uk <928uk-bounces at lists.928.org.uk> On Behalf Of 
> jonathanrackowe--- via 928uk
> Sent: 16 June 2024 03:42
> To: 'Paul Lacey' <t595 at btinternet.com>
> Cc: jonathanrackowe at gmail.com; '928 List' <928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [928uk] Speculation on red SE
> 
> Hi Paul,
> 
>>> Why did you not just ask me ? <<
> 
> I *was* just asking you. I didn't expect there to be any issue as you 
> previously told us the car has no hidden history. The auction page for 
> the forest green CS in America showed VIN and engine no. at the top of 
> the description, so I didn't think these details were any sort of 
> secret. The VIN of my 928 GT is WP0ZZZ92ZMS800679 with Engine Type M28/47 and Engine No.
> 85M00758. Registration number J2XVX
> 
> To answer your question, I would only sell my GT in a no reserve 
> auction if the starting price was one that I was happy to sell for.
> 
> You can ask any questions about my 928 GT or tell me any info you have 
> about it on this list. I really don't mind, and if I was selling it I 
> wouldn't mind either, as then all publicity is good publicity.
> 
> I'll look for your personal email next.
> 
> Best regards,
> Jonathan
> 
> 1991 928 GT Amethyst Metallic
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Lacey <t595 at btinternet.com>
> Sent: 15 June 2024 16:35
> To: jonathan at rackowe.net
> Cc: '928 List' <928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
> Subject: RE: [928uk] Speculation on red SE
> 
> Jonathan,
> What you do and what you discuss is of no interest or concern to me. 
> But then, for reasons best known to you and whoever, you decide to be 
> "messenger" and broadcast your questions / concerns to the wide World, 
> any of whom could be potential bidder on my car.
> Why did you not just ask me ?
> So let me fill you in on a few points:
> I'm selling the car because I have to. Not because I want to. Would 
> you sell your GT via a no reserve auction ?
> Would you be upset if you were selling your GT if I broadcast to 
> 928.uk "Was that the car that was in a bad crash a few years ago" or some such ?
> 
> So, in answer to your email - I will answer all your questions via 
> personal email. I'm not broadcasting VIN numbers etc to all and sundry.
> Then, once I've answered all your questions, perhaps you'll be kind 
> enough to revert to 928.uk list that I have done so.
> 
> If there's further off-list discussion or questions I'd suggest you 
> just ask.
> 
> Paul Lacey
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 928uk [mailto:928uk-bounces at lists.928.org.uk] On Behalf Of
> jonathanrackowe--- via 928uk
> Sent: 15 June 2024 11:19
> To: 'Paul Lacey'
> Cc: jonathanrackowe at gmail.com; 928UK List
> Subject: [928uk] Speculation on red SE
> 
> Hi Paul,
> 
> 
> 
> I'll keep this short as I'm just a messenger here. There has been some 
> speculation off-list recently about whether the red 928 E263DMR that 
> you are selling through Bonhams is the 928 with an S4 engine that was 
> advertised on ebay in Aug 2022, and mentioned on the 928UK list at 
> that time as a possible SE. The change of V5C for E263DMR on 24 Aug 
> 2022 seems to suggest this could be so.
> 
> 
> 
> To clear this up, please could you tell us all the VIN and engine 
> number for the red 928 E263DMR that you are selling, and roughly when 
> you acquired the car. Cheers.
> 
> Best regards,
> Jonathan
> 
> 1991 928 GT Amethyst Metallic
> 
> 
> 
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