[928uk] Speculation on red SE

[Michael Parris]

I'm a bit confused by this thread.  We are supposed to support each other,
why piss off a long standing member with unsubstantiated statements or
questions over the cars authenticity.
Surely, if you are a serious buyer you will make your own enquiries with
the seller of a car privately otherwise what business is it of yours?
As I say, confused.com.

Have a nice weekend, what's left of it, I've parked in a field watching
Spitfires take off in between the rain showers.

On Sun, 16 Jun 2024, 08:55 Paul Lacey via 928uk, <928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
wrote:

> But you didn’t SAY you were talking about a different car - you just
> provided a VIN number.
> Read your email as others would read it not what’s in your head !
> Then, as I said, piss off
>
>
>
> Paul L
>
>
> Sent from mobile device, please excuse typos
>
> > On 16 Jun 2024, at 08:37, jon928se at gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > As far as I am concerned my email hopefully removed the doubt cast by
> Jonathan Rackowe by "confirming " that a different SE was the one suspected
> of having had an engine swap. Which is why I provided the  VIN number of
> that other car to confirm it is not your SE.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Lacey <t595 at btinternet.com>
> > Sent: 16 June 2024 17:13
> > To: jon928se at gmail.com
> > Cc: jonathan at rackowe.net; 928uk List <928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
> > Subject: Re: [928uk] Speculation on red SE
> >
> > Wow, you guys seriously need to piss off.
> > The car you have suddenly entered into this has nothing whatsoever to do
> with mine.
> > Nobody understands what you’re on about and all it’s doing is casting
> doubt on my car.
> > Very sadly it’s time I leave this group as it contains some
> inconsiderate twats and I don’t need it.
> >
> > My last post to this list. To the rest of you my best wishes, enjoy your
> most excellent cars !
> >
> >
> > Paul L
> >
> >
> > Sent from mobile device, please excuse typos
> >
> >> On 16 Jun 2024, at 07:31, jon928se at gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >> All
> >>
> >> My records suggest that
> >>
> >> WP0ZZZ92ZJS841930
> >> Possible Reg PVF928
> >>
> >> Was auctioned by Charterhouse Auctions July 2016, no longer has an SE
> >> engine and seats are sports seats but not SE trim.
> >>
> >> The only record I have of Pauls SE is that it is the 7th built and
> >> according to DVLA some time ago was damaged in 1970!!! So who knows if
> >> that info is correct. And had a number plate change in 1990.
> >>
> >> One question - does it have the rear wheel spacers fitted in the
> >> photos - the wheels appear to far inset relative to the wheel arches.
> >>
> >> Jon H in Sydney
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: 928uk <928uk-bounces at lists.928.org.uk> On Behalf Of
> >> jonathanrackowe--- via 928uk
> >> Sent: 16 June 2024 03:42
> >> To: 'Paul Lacey' <t595 at btinternet.com>
> >> Cc: jonathanrackowe at gmail.com; '928 List' <928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
> >> Subject: Re: [928uk] Speculation on red SE
> >>
> >> Hi Paul,
> >>
> >>>> Why did you not just ask me ? <<
> >>
> >> I *was* just asking you. I didn't expect there to be any issue as you
> >> previously told us the car has no hidden history. The auction page for
> >> the forest green CS in America showed VIN and engine no. at the top of
> >> the description, so I didn't think these details were any sort of
> >> secret. The VIN of my 928 GT is WP0ZZZ92ZMS800679 with Engine Type
> M28/47 and Engine No.
> >> 85M00758. Registration number J2XVX
> >>
> >> To answer your question, I would only sell my GT in a no reserve
> >> auction if the starting price was one that I was happy to sell for.
> >>
> >> You can ask any questions about my 928 GT or tell me any info you have
> >> about it on this list. I really don't mind, and if I was selling it I
> >> wouldn't mind either, as then all publicity is good publicity.
> >>
> >> I'll look for your personal email next.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Jonathan
> >>
> >> 1991 928 GT Amethyst Metallic
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Paul Lacey <t595 at btinternet.com>
> >> Sent: 15 June 2024 16:35
> >> To: jonathan at rackowe.net
> >> Cc: '928 List' <928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
> >> Subject: RE: [928uk] Speculation on red SE
> >>
> >> Jonathan,
> >> What you do and what you discuss is of no interest or concern to me.
> >> But then, for reasons best known to you and whoever, you decide to be
> >> "messenger" and broadcast your questions / concerns to the wide World,
> >> any of whom could be potential bidder on my car.
> >> Why did you not just ask me ?
> >> So let me fill you in on a few points:
> >> I'm selling the car because I have to. Not because I want to. Would
> >> you sell your GT via a no reserve auction ?
> >> Would you be upset if you were selling your GT if I broadcast to
> >> 928.uk "Was that the car that was in a bad crash a few years ago" or
> some such ?
> >>
> >> So, in answer to your email - I will answer all your questions via
> >> personal email. I'm not broadcasting VIN numbers etc to all and sundry.
> >> Then, once I've answered all your questions, perhaps you'll be kind
> >> enough to revert to 928.uk list that I have done so.
> >>
> >> If there's further off-list discussion or questions I'd suggest you
> >> just ask.
> >>
> >> Paul Lacey
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: 928uk [mailto:928uk-bounces at lists.928.org.uk] On Behalf Of
> >> jonathanrackowe--- via 928uk
> >> Sent: 15 June 2024 11:19
> >> To: 'Paul Lacey'
> >> Cc: jonathanrackowe at gmail.com; 928UK List
> >> Subject: [928uk] Speculation on red SE
> >>
> >> Hi Paul,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I'll keep this short as I'm just a messenger here. There has been some
> >> speculation off-list recently about whether the red 928 E263DMR that
> >> you are selling through Bonhams is the 928 with an S4 engine that was
> >> advertised on ebay in Aug 2022, and mentioned on the 928UK list at
> >> that time as a possible SE. The change of V5C for E263DMR on 24 Aug
> >> 2022 seems to suggest this could be so.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> To clear this up, please could you tell us all the VIN and engine
> >> number for the red 928 E263DMR that you are selling, and roughly when
> >> you acquired the car. Cheers.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Jonathan
> >>
> >> 1991 928 GT Amethyst Metallic
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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