[928uk] Speculation on red SE

Sun Jun 16 10:10:09 UTC 2024

I wasn't going to say anything and then I was going to say something and so
on...

I've no idea what's going on here and, honestly, I don't care. But whatever
it is, it's in the wrong place. This "handbags at dawn" stuff sounds like a
private fight and should have been conducted as such.

Howard

On Sun, 16 Jun 2024 at 10:53, Michael Parris via 928uk <
928uk at lists.928.org.uk> wrote:

> I'm a bit confused by this thread.  We are supposed to support each other,
> why piss off a long standing member with unsubstantiated statements or
> questions over the cars authenticity.
> Surely, if you are a serious buyer you will make your own enquiries with
> the seller of a car privately otherwise what business is it of yours?
> As I say, confused.com.
>
> Have a nice weekend, what's left of it, I've parked in a field watching
> Spitfires take off in between the rain showers.
>
> On Sun, 16 Jun 2024, 08:55 Paul Lacey via 928uk, <928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
> > But you didn’t SAY you were talking about a different car - you just
> > provided a VIN number.
> > Read your email as others would read it not what’s in your head !
> > Then, as I said, piss off
> >
> >
> >
> > Paul L
> >
> >
> > Sent from mobile device, please excuse typos
> >
> > > On 16 Jun 2024, at 08:37, jon928se at gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > As far as I am concerned my email hopefully removed the doubt cast by
> > Jonathan Rackowe by "confirming " that a different SE was the one
> suspected
> > of having had an engine swap. Which is why I provided the  VIN number of
> > that other car to confirm it is not your SE.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Paul Lacey <t595 at btinternet.com>
> > > Sent: 16 June 2024 17:13
> > > To: jon928se at gmail.com
> > > Cc: jonathan at rackowe.net; 928uk List <928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
> > > Subject: Re: [928uk] Speculation on red SE
> > >
> > > Wow, you guys seriously need to piss off.
> > > The car you have suddenly entered into this has nothing whatsoever to
> do
> > with mine.
> > > Nobody understands what you’re on about and all it’s doing is casting
> > doubt on my car.
> > > Very sadly it’s time I leave this group as it contains some
> > inconsiderate twats and I don’t need it.
> > >
> > > My last post to this list. To the rest of you my best wishes, enjoy
> your
> > most excellent cars !
> > >
> > >
> > > Paul L
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent from mobile device, please excuse typos
> > >
> > >> On 16 Jun 2024, at 07:31, jon928se at gmail.com wrote:
> > >>
> > >> All
> > >>
> > >> My records suggest that
> > >>
> > >> WP0ZZZ92ZJS841930
> > >> Possible Reg PVF928
> > >>
> > >> Was auctioned by Charterhouse Auctions July 2016, no longer has an SE
> > >> engine and seats are sports seats but not SE trim.
> > >>
> > >> The only record I have of Pauls SE is that it is the 7th built and
> > >> according to DVLA some time ago was damaged in 1970!!! So who knows if
> > >> that info is correct. And had a number plate change in 1990.
> > >>
> > >> One question - does it have the rear wheel spacers fitted in the
> > >> photos - the wheels appear to far inset relative to the wheel arches.
> > >>
> > >> Jon H in Sydney
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: 928uk <928uk-bounces at lists.928.org.uk> On Behalf Of
> > >> jonathanrackowe--- via 928uk
> > >> Sent: 16 June 2024 03:42
> > >> To: 'Paul Lacey' <t595 at btinternet.com>
> > >> Cc: jonathanrackowe at gmail.com; '928 List' <928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
> > >> Subject: Re: [928uk] Speculation on red SE
> > >>
> > >> Hi Paul,
> > >>
> > >>>> Why did you not just ask me ? <<
> > >>
> > >> I *was* just asking you. I didn't expect there to be any issue as you
> > >> previously told us the car has no hidden history. The auction page for
> > >> the forest green CS in America showed VIN and engine no. at the top of
> > >> the description, so I didn't think these details were any sort of
> > >> secret. The VIN of my 928 GT is WP0ZZZ92ZMS800679 with Engine Type
> > M28/47 and Engine No.
> > >> 85M00758. Registration number J2XVX
> > >>
> > >> To answer your question, I would only sell my GT in a no reserve
> > >> auction if the starting price was one that I was happy to sell for.
> > >>
> > >> You can ask any questions about my 928 GT or tell me any info you have
> > >> about it on this list. I really don't mind, and if I was selling it I
> > >> wouldn't mind either, as then all publicity is good publicity.
> > >>
> > >> I'll look for your personal email next.
> > >>
> > >> Best regards,
> > >> Jonathan
> > >>
> > >> 1991 928 GT Amethyst Metallic
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Paul Lacey <t595 at btinternet.com>
> > >> Sent: 15 June 2024 16:35
> > >> To: jonathan at rackowe.net
> > >> Cc: '928 List' <928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
> > >> Subject: RE: [928uk] Speculation on red SE
> > >>
> > >> Jonathan,
> > >> What you do and what you discuss is of no interest or concern to me.
> > >> But then, for reasons best known to you and whoever, you decide to be
> > >> "messenger" and broadcast your questions / concerns to the wide World,
> > >> any of whom could be potential bidder on my car.
> > >> Why did you not just ask me ?
> > >> So let me fill you in on a few points:
> > >> I'm selling the car because I have to. Not because I want to. Would
> > >> you sell your GT via a no reserve auction ?
> > >> Would you be upset if you were selling your GT if I broadcast to
> > >> 928.uk "Was that the car that was in a bad crash a few years ago" or
> > some such ?
> > >>
> > >> So, in answer to your email - I will answer all your questions via
> > >> personal email. I'm not broadcasting VIN numbers etc to all and
> sundry.
> > >> Then, once I've answered all your questions, perhaps you'll be kind
> > >> enough to revert to 928.uk list that I have done so.
> > >>
> > >> If there's further off-list discussion or questions I'd suggest you
> > >> just ask.
> > >>
> > >> Paul Lacey
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: 928uk [mailto:928uk-bounces at lists.928.org.uk] On Behalf Of
> > >> jonathanrackowe--- via 928uk
> > >> Sent: 15 June 2024 11:19
> > >> To: 'Paul Lacey'
> > >> Cc: jonathanrackowe at gmail.com; 928UK List
> > >> Subject: [928uk] Speculation on red SE
> > >>
> > >> Hi Paul,
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I'll keep this short as I'm just a messenger here. There has been some
> > >> speculation off-list recently about whether the red 928 E263DMR that
> > >> you are selling through Bonhams is the 928 with an S4 engine that was
> > >> advertised on ebay in Aug 2022, and mentioned on the 928UK list at
> > >> that time as a possible SE. The change of V5C for E263DMR on 24 Aug
> > >> 2022 seems to suggest this could be so.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> To clear this up, please could you tell us all the VIN and engine
> > >> number for the red 928 E263DMR that you are selling, and roughly when
> > >> you acquired the car. Cheers.
> > >>
> > >> Best regards,
> > >> Jonathan
> > >>
> > >> 1991 928 GT Amethyst Metallic
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
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