[928uk] Red SE

[Richard Armstrong]

Well
Jonathan has pissed paul off enough to leave the list which is a great shame
Richard

On 16/06/2024 10:52, Michael Parris via 928uk wrote:
> I'm a bit confused by this thread.  We are supposed to support each other,
> why piss off a long standing member with unsubstantiated statements or
> questions over the cars authenticity.
> Surely, if you are a serious buyer you will make your own enquiries with
> the seller of a car privately otherwise what business is it of yours?
> As I say, confused.com.
>
> Have a nice weekend, what's left of it, I've parked in a field watching
> Spitfires take off in between the rain showers.
>
> On Sun, 16 Jun 2024, 08:55 Paul Lacey via 928uk,<928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> But you didn’t SAY you were talking about a different car - you just
>> provided a VIN number.
>> Read your email as others would read it not what’s in your head !
>> Then, as I said, piss off
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul L
>>
>>
>> Sent from mobile device, please excuse typos
>>
>>> On 16 Jun 2024, at 08:37,jon928se at gmail.com  wrote:
>>>
>>> As far as I am concerned my email hopefully removed the doubt cast by
>> Jonathan Rackowe by "confirming " that a different SE was the one suspected
>> of having had an engine swap. Which is why I provided the  VIN number of
>> that other car to confirm it is not your SE.
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Paul Lacey<t595 at btinternet.com>
>>> Sent: 16 June 2024 17:13
>>> To:jon928se at gmail.com
>>> Cc:jonathan at rackowe.net; 928uk List<928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
>>> Subject: Re: [928uk] Speculation on red SE
>>>
>>> Wow, you guys seriously need to piss off.
>>> The car you have suddenly entered into this has nothing whatsoever to do
>> with mine.
>>> Nobody understands what you’re on about and all it’s doing is casting
>> doubt on my car.
>>> Very sadly it’s time I leave this group as it contains some
>> inconsiderate twats and I don’t need it.
>>> My last post to this list. To the rest of you my best wishes, enjoy your
>> most excellent cars !
>>>
>>> Paul L
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from mobile device, please excuse typos
>>>
>>>> On 16 Jun 2024, at 07:31,jon928se at gmail.com  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> All
>>>>
>>>> My records suggest that
>>>>
>>>> WP0ZZZ92ZJS841930
>>>> Possible Reg PVF928
>>>>
>>>> Was auctioned by Charterhouse Auctions July 2016, no longer has an SE
>>>> engine and seats are sports seats but not SE trim.
>>>>
>>>> The only record I have of Pauls SE is that it is the 7th built and
>>>> according to DVLA some time ago was damaged in 1970!!! So who knows if
>>>> that info is correct. And had a number plate change in 1990.
>>>>
>>>> One question - does it have the rear wheel spacers fitted in the
>>>> photos - the wheels appear to far inset relative to the wheel arches.
>>>>
>>>> Jon H in Sydney
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: 928uk<928uk-bounces at lists.928.org.uk>  On Behalf Of
>>>> jonathanrackowe--- via 928uk
>>>> Sent: 16 June 2024 03:42
>>>> To: 'Paul Lacey'<t595 at btinternet.com>
>>>> Cc:jonathanrackowe at gmail.com; '928 List'<928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
>>>> Subject: Re: [928uk] Speculation on red SE
>>>>
>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>
>>>>>> Why did you not just ask me ? <<
>>>> I *was* just asking you. I didn't expect there to be any issue as you
>>>> previously told us the car has no hidden history. The auction page for
>>>> the forest green CS in America showed VIN and engine no. at the top of
>>>> the description, so I didn't think these details were any sort of
>>>> secret. The VIN of my 928 GT is WP0ZZZ92ZMS800679 with Engine Type
>> M28/47 and Engine No.
>>>> 85M00758. Registration number J2XVX
>>>>
>>>> To answer your question, I would only sell my GT in a no reserve
>>>> auction if the starting price was one that I was happy to sell for.
>>>>
>>>> You can ask any questions about my 928 GT or tell me any info you have
>>>> about it on this list. I really don't mind, and if I was selling it I
>>>> wouldn't mind either, as then all publicity is good publicity.
>>>>
>>>> I'll look for your personal email next.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Jonathan
>>>>
>>>> 1991 928 GT Amethyst Metallic
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Paul Lacey<t595 at btinternet.com>
>>>> Sent: 15 June 2024 16:35
>>>> To:jonathan at rackowe.net
>>>> Cc: '928 List'<928uk at lists.928.org.uk>
>>>> Subject: RE: [928uk] Speculation on red SE
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan,
>>>> What you do and what you discuss is of no interest or concern to me.
>>>> But then, for reasons best known to you and whoever, you decide to be
>>>> "messenger" and broadcast your questions / concerns to the wide World,
>>>> any of whom could be potential bidder on my car.
>>>> Why did you not just ask me ?
>>>> So let me fill you in on a few points:
>>>> I'm selling the car because I have to. Not because I want to. Would
>>>> you sell your GT via a no reserve auction ?
>>>> Would you be upset if you were selling your GT if I broadcast to
>>>> 928.uk "Was that the car that was in a bad crash a few years ago" or
>> some such ?
>>>> So, in answer to your email - I will answer all your questions via
>>>> personal email. I'm not broadcasting VIN numbers etc to all and sundry.
>>>> Then, once I've answered all your questions, perhaps you'll be kind
>>>> enough to revert to 928.uk list that I have done so.
>>>>
>>>> If there's further off-list discussion or questions I'd suggest you
>>>> just ask.
>>>>
>>>> Paul Lacey
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: 928uk [mailto:928uk-bounces at lists.928.org.uk] On Behalf Of
>>>> jonathanrackowe--- via 928uk
>>>> Sent: 15 June 2024 11:19
>>>> To: 'Paul Lacey'
>>>> Cc:jonathanrackowe at gmail.com; 928UK List
>>>> Subject: [928uk] Speculation on red SE
>>>>
>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'll keep this short as I'm just a messenger here. There has been some
>>>> speculation off-list recently about whether the red 928 E263DMR that
>>>> you are selling through Bonhams is the 928 with an S4 engine that was
>>>> advertised on ebay in Aug 2022, and mentioned on the 928UK list at
>>>> that time as a possible SE. The change of V5C for E263DMR on 24 Aug
>>>> 2022 seems to suggest this could be so.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To clear this up, please could you tell us all the VIN and engine
>>>> number for the red 928 E263DMR that you are selling, and roughly when
>>>> you acquired the car. Cheers.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Jonathan
>>>>
>>>> 1991 928 GT Amethyst Metallic
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>

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